Cricket......

[Warthog]

Sorry. Cricket has for a long time been for me the ultimate game... that game of mental and physical chess between 2 teams over 5 days....

 

I know there are people who view this, Test Cricket", as "watching paint dry", but the intricacies, the tactics, the "chess"... there is no game such as this...

 

And then f.ckers like Faf, (Yes. Our Faf ...) and today's moron and that ignanimous arse who opened for England tries to "alter" the ball....

 

It pisses me off like little else...

[Mntboy]

I hear what you say.

 

But it's exactly the same in SA... if you know nothing/the minimum/zilch is going to happen, you'll take the chance.

 

But if you know you're going to cop a 2 year ban from all (paying) cricket... maybe you'll think twice as to pull a ridiculous stunt on internet tv as today's dimwit.

Sadly all too true.

 

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[Warthog]

Sorry. Cricket has for a long time been for me the ultimate game... that game of mental and physical chess between 2 teams over 5 days....

 

I know there are people who view this, Test Cricket", as "watching paint dry", but the intricacies, the tactics, the "chess"... there is no game such as this...

 

And then f.ckers like Faf, (Yes. Our Faf ...) and today's moron and that ignanimous arse who opened for England tries to "alter" the ball....

 

It pisses me off like little else...

 

Edit: And that being my 500th post.

[Kranswurm]

When Cricket Australia get here Smith can kiss the captaincy goodbye

The reaction from down under to this is pretty strong

[GLuvsMtb]

Perhaps the solution lies in not being allowed to work on the ball at all? Give it to the ump after each over and he’ll wipe it down with a cloth to remove anything from it. We may get through our overs quicker, balls may keep their shape longer and you don’t have to work out where the line is that you shouldn’t cross.

 

 

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[PhilipV]

Perhaps the solution lies in not being allowed to work on the ball at all? Give it to the ump after each over and he’ll wipe it down with a cloth to remove anything from it. We may get through our overs quicker, balls may keep their shape longer and you don’t have to work out where the line is that you shouldn’t cross.

 

 

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Agreed. And then both teams will have the same ball deterioration to get some swing with. it levels the playing field of any skullduggery.

[_C50_]

Perhaps the solution lies in not being allowed to work on the ball at all? Give it to the ump after each over and he’ll wipe it down with a cloth to remove anything from it. We may get through our overs quicker, balls may keep their shape longer and you don’t have to work out where the line is that you shouldn’t cross.

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You work on the ball during the over, not just in between overs.

 

"Working" or shining the ball is as old as the game itself. Deliberately scuffing/altering the non-shining side is against the laws of the game. During the game many things will scuff a ball. The pitch, outfield, etc etc. In ODI's you will see the fielding side deliberately throw the ball on the bounce to the keeper. Other than it getting to the keeper quicker, it also softens the ball quicker. A softer ball doesn't fly of the bat like a hard one. In test cricket you never throw it in to the keeper on the bounce, you keep it in the air to prevent the ball going softer, quicker. And also not to accidentally scuff the shiny side from the ball hiiting the pitch.

 

There is nothing worse for a bowler when you work on one side of the ball keeping it shiny, and you get the ball back from the previous over and the shiny side is all f'ed up because your teammate can't hit a seam.

 

Other than scuffing the ball, "wetting" one side is also a method for creating swing. As Fafs saliva gate in Oz. When you "wet" the one side, it becomes heavier, which causes it to swing more.

[nickc]

Anyone into woodworking:

 

Sandpaper being sold cheaply in bulk, contact the Australian Cricket Team.

[GLuvsMtb]

You work on the ball during the over, not just in between overs.

 

"Working" or shining the ball is as old as the game itself. Deliberately scuffing/altering the non-shining side is against the laws of the game. During the game many things will scuff a ball. The pitch, outfield, etc etc. In ODI's you will see the fielding side deliberately throw the ball on the bounce to the keeper. Other than it getting to the keeper quicker, it also softens the ball quicker. A softer ball doesn't fly of the bat like a hard one. In test cricket you never throw it in to the keeper on the bounce, you keep it in the air to prevent the ball going softer, quicker. And also not to accidentally scuff the shiny side from the ball hiiting the pitch.

 

There is nothing worse for a bowler when you work on one side of the ball keeping it shiny, and you get the ball back from the previous over and the shiny side is all f'ed up because your teammate can't hit a seam.

 

Other than scuffing the ball, "wetting" one side is also a method for creating swing. As Fafs saliva gate in Oz. When you "wet" the one side, it becomes heavier, which causes it to swing more.

I know very well how working in the ball works, but if it creates a ‘grey area’ in the modern game, take it out. We stick to tradition when it suites us. We don’t play with cork cricket pads anymore, and bats have edges 4 times thicker than 30 years ago. We never get through 90 overs a day anymore because the ball does a full trip around 9 fielders before getting to the bowler. If you need a more even contest between bat and ball, play with the bats we played with 30 years ago rather than allowing players an opportunity to cheat.

 

 

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[Warthog]

When Cricket Australia get here Smith can kiss the captaincy goodbye

The reaction from down under to this is pretty strong

Cricket Australia is here already - the chairman was very quick to flush his mouth over the "disgraceful" SA supporters....

[Warthog]

You work on the ball during the over, not just in between overs.

 

"Working" or shining the ball is as old as the game itself. Deliberately scuffing/altering the non-shining side is against the laws of the game. During the game many things will scuff a ball. The pitch, outfield, etc etc. In ODI's you will see the fielding side deliberately throw the ball on the bounce to the keeper. Other than it getting to the keeper quicker, it also softens the ball quicker. A softer ball doesn't fly of the bat like a hard one. In test cricket you never throw it in to the keeper on the bounce, you keep it in the air to prevent the ball going softer, quicker. And also not to accidentally scuff the shiny side from the ball hiiting the pitch.

 

There is nothing worse for a bowler when you work on one side of the ball keeping it shiny, and you get the ball back from the previous over and the shiny side is all f'ed up because your teammate can't hit a seam.

 

Other than scuffing the ball, "wetting" one side is also a method for creating swing. As Fafs saliva gate in Oz. When you "wet" the one side, it becomes heavier, which causes it to swing more.

I stand by what I said.

 

The problem is not the "grey" area - everyone knows exactly what is allowed and what not.

 

The real problem is the f...nuts in charge - the players know if they're caught, they're going to most probably get a slap on the wrist, loose some of the match fee (or even all), and maybe cop a 2-game suspension. That's it.

 

If they don't get serious with this kind of s..t, then it will continue. But if the players know you get banned for 2 seasons from all cricket - it might make them think again.

[SwissVan]

I stand by what I said.

 

The problem is not the "grey" area - everyone knows exactly what is allowed and what not.

 

The real problem is the f...nuts in charge - the players know if they're caught, they're going to most probably get a slap on the wrist, loose some of the match fee (or even all), and maybe cop a 2-game suspension. That's it.

 

If they don't get serious with this kind of s..t, then it will continue. But if the players know you get banned for 2 seasons from all cricket - it might make them think again.

Maybe they should change the rules and make it like other sports where it’s a red card offense.... getting sent off for at least the rest of a game should be enough to discourage cheating

[Vetseun]

Aussies maybe concede the game as soon as SA declare or get bowled out?

[Mntboy]

Aussies maybe concede the game as soon as SA declare or get bowled out?

Not the Aussie way. I would be extremely surprised if they did.

 

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[Warthog]

Cricket Australia is here already - the chairman was very quick to flush his mouth over the "disgraceful" SA supporters....

Sorry, my mistake. They're not here yet, their heads of "Integrity" and Performance is apparently on their way.

[Warthog]

Aussies maybe concede the game as soon as SA declare or get bowled out?

I hope they don't concede. I really hope we can make them suffer...

 

(Oh, and just for the record, I also don't believe Faf should be captain of the Proteas or even in the team... he is also a cheat. No difference between him and Steve Smith.)