rob_mtb Posted January 9, 2012 Posted January 9, 2012 I must admit i dont do crazy technical riding, XC\Marathon type riding is more my game.. went from an AM full sus 130mm travel...snipThis is the thing. Many MTBers don't actually ride anything technical and might as well be on road bikes. 130mm travel is not AM. This is a trail bike. AM bikes generally have oversized components and run at 5.5 inches upwards. The geometry is also different. Riders who consider themselves 'All Mountain' capable should be able to run the AM route at Tokai (off the Boulders trail). This is a good representation of AM riding, and I'd love to see a 29er hardtail go down that route. My money is on the trail winning that one Just like most things in life, there is the right tool for the job. I see the 29er as a marathon bike, the 26er FS as a trail machine. All the way to DH bikes. You wouldn't take a knife to gunfight would you? Or use a spanner to hit in a nail? So why try to lump the whole of MTB into one category? 99% of these 29er fanboys are XC riders and many are just trying to justify their purchases.
SwissVan Posted January 9, 2012 Posted January 9, 2012 Jagh man its easy, if you: 1. Ride technicaly difficult but reasonably smooth single track with lots of twists and turns then say 26. 2.Ride mostly for a circus straightish jeep track, dirt roads, big roots and big rocks say 29.
kingalton Posted January 9, 2012 Posted January 9, 2012 99% of these 29er fanboys are XC riders and many are just trying to justify their purchases.no need to try justify the purchase, its excellent for what is intended, as i tried to say in my post.. it all depends on what you want to do with the bike...
andretraut Posted January 9, 2012 Posted January 9, 2012 If you prefer your music on vinyl, your old school and should ride a 26 inch bike, but if you are keeping up with new developments, get a 29er!
rob_mtb Posted January 9, 2012 Posted January 9, 2012 (edited) Jagh man its easy, if you: 1. Ride technicaly difficult but reasonably smooth single track with lots of twists and turns then say 26. 2.Ride mostly for a circus straightish jeep track, dirt roads, big roots and big rocks say 29.I don't buy the 'big roots and rocks' bit at all. DH bikes are made for roots and rock gardens. You don't get more gnarly tracks than downhill. That's what the suspension is there for. If you have it dialled in properly you should be able to ride straight over curbs, roots, rocks etc with very little resistance. I get the whole concept of why a larger tyre would clear an obstacle but I reckon many riders don't set up their forks correctly. If riders spent half as much time setting up their suspension as they do Mr.Minning their frames to this wouldn't be half an issue. Suspension is not for absorbing jumps, it's for ironing out the trail surface. Your body absorbs the shocks of jumps. Need proof, watch dirt jumpers or BMXers some time. If you prefer your music on vinyl, your old school and should ride a 26 inch bike, but if you are keeping up with new developments, get a 29er!This is rubbish. How is having a bigger wheel a better technology? Just because it's a new development doesn't make it better design. You are being conned by the marketing hype. Still, to this day, there is not one actual scientific A/B comparison showing 29ers to be better. The pro's are cancelled out by the cons.Also to take you literally, if you must know, vinyl sounds far superior to anything other than the original tape master in music. CD is inferior, MP3 is an absolute joke. A digital 24bit 96k file is about as close to good as there is. Vinyl is better by a long way. It is a full bandwidth duplication and if played back properly on a good system, with proper stylus and preamp, is something to behold. Edited January 9, 2012 by rob_mtb
kingalton Posted January 9, 2012 Posted January 9, 2012 HAHA, i can see nostrils flaring on the Hub today....
NINER_boy Posted January 9, 2012 Posted January 9, 2012 Guys PLEASE, NOT THIS AGAIN!!! Please close this thread, and see the following!!!! https://community.bikehub.co.za/topic/106593-26-vs-29-want-to-know-which-is-faster/page__view__findpost__p__1542162__fromsearch__1 https://community.bikehub.co.za/topic/109129-29er-hardtail-vs-26-hardtail/page__view__findpost__p__1514884__fromsearch__1 Please read ALL the posts and comments, and ALL you will see, all your opinions / points have been raised and discussed at LENGTH before. Happy reading
splat Posted January 9, 2012 Posted January 9, 2012 Read Brandon Els' Blog: http://www.probike.co.za/blogs/brandon/theoldcoots-29er-26er-review more importantly test ride each bike and make up your own mind.
andretraut Posted January 9, 2012 Posted January 9, 2012 (edited) This is rubbish. How is having a bigger wheel a better technology? Just because it's a new development doesn't make it better design. You are being conned by the marketing hype. Still, to this day, there is not one actual scientific A/B comparison showing 29ers to be better. The pro's are cancelled out by the cons.Also to take you literally, if you must know, vinyl sounds far superior to anything other than the original tape master in music. CD is inferior, MP3 is an absolute joke. A digital 24bit 96k file is about as close to good as there is. Vinyl is better by a long way. It is a full bandwidth duplication and if played back properly on a good system, with proper stylus and preamp, is something to behold. Rob, Rob, you must learn to read, and to think before you speak (write). Where in my post did I mention the word 'better'. Where did I say a 29er is better than a 26er. Where did I say digital is better than vinyl. I think you just made a fool of yourself with this rediculous reply on my innocent statement about being old school and new trends and developments. Edited January 9, 2012 by andrè traut
SwissVan Posted January 9, 2012 Posted January 9, 2012 I don't buy the 'big roots and rocks' bit at all. DH bikes are made for roots and rock gardens. You don't get more gnarly tracks than downhill. That's what the suspension is there for. If you have it dialled in properly you should be able to ride straight over curbs, roots, rocks etc with very little resistance. I get the whole concept of why a larger tyre would clear an obstacle but I reckon many riders don't set up their forks correctly. If riders spent half as much time setting up their suspension as they do Mr.Minning their frames to this wouldn't be half an issue. Suspension is not for absorbing jumps, it's for ironing out the trail surface. Your body absorbs the shocks of jumps. Need proof, watch dirt jumpers or BMXers some time. This is rubbish. How is having a bigger wheel a better technology? Just because it's a new development doesn't make it better design. You are being conned by the marketing hype. Still, to this day, there is not one actual scientific A/B comparison showing 29ers to be better. The pro's are cancelled out by the cons. I'm like agreeing with you 100%, even tho I've never tried a 29er expect for my old Raleigh 3 speed Sturmy Archer that I had in the 70's, 1970's....
TNT1 Posted January 9, 2012 Posted January 9, 2012 Oh, yay. This **** again. Look out for a merge coming to a thread near you.
The Drongo Posted January 9, 2012 Posted January 9, 2012 Oh, yay. This **** again. Look out for a merge coming to a thread near you. Hey! That was cool. As I clicked I got one of those red warning bars "can not determine which thread you are trying to view".... usually tells me I have done something dumbass. NOT SO this time. Looks like you were to blame. Talking of dumbass....see he is back again.
Iwan Kemp Posted January 9, 2012 Posted January 9, 2012 Merge doesn't make sense. Mine was a Poll, the other one a discussion.
Clinton1 Posted January 9, 2012 Posted January 9, 2012 Rob, Rob, you must learn to read, and to think before you speak (write). Where in my post did I mention the word 'better'. Where did I say a 29er is better than a 26er. Where did I say digital is better than vinyl. I think you just made a fool of yourself with this rediculous reply on my innocent statement about being old school and new trends and developments. I have to admit to being in Rob's corner, only this time, when it came to interpreting your post, Andre. It seemed you were ridiculing 26" as old fashioned. Old school can, by definition, mean something from a while ago that is held in high regard but equally it can mean old fashioned, out of style and uncool. Your post seemed to imply the latter. Again, my opinion but you obviously weren't very clear...
Iwan Kemp Posted January 9, 2012 Posted January 9, 2012 Oh, yay. This **** again. Look out for a merge coming to a thread near you. Unmerge, please.
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