DJR Posted September 22, 2012 Share There was also the one called The Drinking Man's .............bottle of wine per meal. ...........a lot of whiskey and wine ...........Eat meat and wash it down with non-sugary alcohol........ I'm going on a diet, I'm going on a diet, I'm going on a diet.....! Richard 1973 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard 1973 Posted September 23, 2012 Share I respect Tim Noakes as a scientist and as a man.This is all very exciting and intresting research.However as previous people have mentioned, it may not apply to everone. Everything in moderation! As Rob Wolff would say, try it and see if you feel better, look better and perform better, if not it's not for you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tumbleweed Posted September 25, 2012 Share Noakes diet slammed by cows http://www.hayibo.com/noakes-diet-slammed-by-cows/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Fastbastard Mayhem Posted September 25, 2012 Share Noakes diet slammed by cows http://www.hayibo.co...lammed-by-cows/ ROFL! Love it... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mileage Posted September 25, 2012 Share Search for "Ketogenic Diet" on google. if you want the science use the advanced search and set file type to PDF. That will come up with a lot of journal articles Basically a good idea for normal sedentary people but not good for high perfomance endurance athletes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Fastbastard Mayhem Posted September 25, 2012 Share Search for "Ketogenic Diet" on google. if you want the science use the advanced search and set file type to PDF. That will come up with a lot of journal articles Basically a good idea for normal sedentary people but not good for high perfomance endurance athletes Patently false. High performance endurance athletes on the Ketogenic diet. A number of SA swimmers, Bruce Fordyce (hardly low performance) Oscar Chalupsky (often doing races over 4 to 5 hours at very high intensity) and so on. Don't write it off just because the mainstream media doesn't want you to think that it would be good for athletes... Richard 1973 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SwissVan Posted September 25, 2012 Share Search for "Ketogenic Diet" on google. if you want the science use the advanced search and set file type to PDF. That will come up with a lot of journal articles Basically a good idea for normal sedentary people but not good for high perfomance endurance athletes Should that be High Performance endurance athletes or just endurance athletes? If not how do we determine where the average and high perfomance boundries end / start? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Topwine Posted September 25, 2012 Share Should that be High Performance endurance athletes or just endurance athletes? If not how do we determine where the average and high perfomance boundries end / start? I think winning the nearly 50 km open water Molokai World Championships 12 times, the last one at the age of 49 !, probably qualifies as High Performance endurance , don't you think ? For someone who is basically my father’s age to win is mind blowing. It’s one of the best sporting performances I have ever been part of.” —ninth place finisher, Michael Booth, age 21. http://www.canoekayak.com/touring-kayak/the-best-win-ever/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Fastbastard Mayhem Posted September 25, 2012 Share I think winning the nearly 50 km open water Molokai World Championships 12 times, the last one at the age of 49 !, probably qualifies as High Performance endurance , don't you think ? For someone who is basically my father’s age to win is mind blowing. It’s one of the best sporting performances I have ever been part of.” —ninth place finisher, Michael Booth, age 21. http://www.canoekayak.com/touring-kayak/the-best-win-ever/ And to make it more amazing, the latest was after a sabbatical of 5 years. He was too big for the boat. Until he changed his diet to follow that of TN's Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SwissVan Posted September 25, 2012 Share I think winning the nearly 50 km open water Molokai World Championships 12 times, the last one at the age of 49 !, probably qualifies as High Performance endurance , don't you think ? For someone who is basically my father’s age to win is mind blowing. It’s one of the best sporting performances I have ever been part of.” —ninth place finisher, Michael Booth, age 21. http://www.canoekayak.com/touring-kayak/the-best-win-ever/ Yes i appreciate that for sure being in the same age group as Oscar and all... Maybe i should read up on it...LOL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HappyMartin Posted September 25, 2012 Share I tried the diet for a little over 2 weeks. Problem is I am a vegetarian. Could find very little to eat. Lost 2 kg very quickly then stuck there. Never really got hungry but man did I get slow. I also got real grumpy. Slowest loop at Modderfontein I have ever done. The ride seemed to go on for days As the man says, it doesn't suit everyone Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cassie Posted September 25, 2012 Share I tried the diet for a little over 2 weeks. Problem is I am a vegetarian. Could find very little to eat. Lost 2 kg very quickly then stuck there. Never really got hungry but man did I get slow. I also got real grumpy. Slowest loop at Modderfontein I have ever done. The ride seemed to go on for days As the man says, it doesn't suit everyone Don't give up!! I think your body still needs to adapt to the low carb intake + energy expenditure....give it some more time and come report back to us... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Topwine Posted September 26, 2012 Share I tried the diet for a little over 2 weeks. Problem is I am a vegetarian. Could find very little to eat. Lost 2 kg very quickly then stuck there. Never really got hungry but man did I get slow. I also got real grumpy. Slowest loop at Modderfontein I have ever done. The ride seemed to go on for days As the man says, it doesn't suit everyone As said, don't give up. You have to be on it for at least 2-3 weeks for your body to adapt to fat burning and get the Atkins advantage. At first you are going to be slower, and feel a bit more tired. That don't last forever. Read these 2 books thoroughly. Study them ! The Art and Science of Low Carbohydrate Performance and The Art and Science of Low Carbohydrate Living: An Expert Guide to Making the Life-Saving Benefits of Carbohydrate Restriction Sustainable and Enjoyable Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HappyMartin Posted September 26, 2012 Share Thanks for the advice guys but I bailed on it. High protein and fat diet for a vegetarian is just more than I can handle. Also I am over 50 and that leads to enough general grumpiness without having to go look for more trouble. I also think being over 50 and having a body fat % hovering around 12% is good enough. I have to ask myself what I am trying to achieve exactly. My cholesterol is normal, my blood pressure is normal and I easily do events like the 94 in under 3 hours. Think I am trying to fix what's not broken. I did read the books by the way and agree that I should have tried longer but the suffering was too much and as I said earlier, what for? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
'Dale Posted September 26, 2012 Share I roll with 1/3 carbs and 2/3 protein.My struggle is with sugar. Of the refined type. Just love my sweets / dessert. There are so many different views / angles.I guess it's a matter of experimentation as everyone's body is different. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
'Dale Posted September 26, 2012 Share Oh, so happy to know that the chicken skin is good fat... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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