TNT1 Posted September 26, 2012 Share Oh you speak so much *** its funny hahahahahaha mocking like that Just an example, no TNT1's were intended to be hurt in this example It's weird, whenever I see the word scoff, I think of halftime oranges during junior school soccer matches. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TNT1 Posted September 26, 2012 Share If someone doesn't agree with you it does not make them a child molester, granny rapist and roadie. But, this is the 'ub... Don't take away the glue that holds us together. Or keeps us apart. Or whatever this blind hatred for anonymous people does for us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard 1973 Posted September 26, 2012 Share I tried the diet for a little over 2 weeks. Problem is I am a vegetarian. Could find very little to eat. Lost 2 kg very quickly then stuck there. Never really got hungry but man did I get slow. I also got real grumpy. Slowest loop at Modderfontein I have ever done. The ride seemed to go on for days As the man says, it doesn't suit everyone Adaption takes 3-4 weeks, Read the Art and Science of Low Carbohydrate Performance - Phinney anf Volek Often it's more fat that you need and less protein, they give formulas to help get you started, the benefits are huge, stable blood sugar, reduced inflamation especially after exercise, quicker recuperation. Ability to ride hours without refuel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SwissVan Posted September 26, 2012 Share It's weird, whenever I see the word scoff, I think of halftime oranges during junior school soccer matches. Ha ha... i usualy associate it with scoffing cake at Mugg n Bean Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TNT1 Posted September 26, 2012 Share Adaption takes 3-4 weeks, Read the Art and Science of Low Carbohydrate Performance - Phinney anf Volek Often it's more fat that you need and less protein, they give formulas to help get you started, the benefits are huge, stable blood sugar, reduced inflamation especially after exercise, quicker recuperation. Ability to ride hours without refuel. Yip, the Phinney experiment is quoted in one of the links I posted earlier. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard 1973 Posted September 26, 2012 Share Yip, the Phinney experiment is quoted in one of the links I posted earlier. I had an un-refreshed page up from last night. :-) couldn't find the delete key after I posted it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TNT1 Posted September 26, 2012 Share I had an un-refreshed page up from last night. :-) couldn't find the delete key after I posted it. Heh heh. No worries, the link I posted was a very long read, you pulled out some salient points. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tumbleweed Posted September 26, 2012 Share Some questions posed this morning: Dave George @davegeorge101So @ProfTimNoakes most common qst regarding high protein diet is how does it apply to the high performance athlete? Glycogen replenishment? Dave George @davegeorge101.@ProfTimNoakes how does high protein effect ph sensitivity and how relative is blood ph to hp athlete constantly loading body with acid? Tim Noakes@ProfTimNoakes@davegeorge101 Key:If elite athlete is carb sensitive should not change. If carb resistant will benefit by reducing but not eliminating carb Lucky Luke. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TNT1 Posted September 26, 2012 Share Tim Noakes@ProfTimNoakes@davegeorge101 Key:If elite athlete is carb sensitive should not change. If carb resistant will benefit by reducing but not eliminating carb The Phinney thing and others point to a level of around 45-50% of diet being made up of carbs for high performing endurance athletes. The link I posted even has a pic of Cancellara... Anyway, I take Noakes' response there to be a little bit of back-peddaling when faced with the same questions I'd ask him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andydude Posted September 26, 2012 Share To disagree with the good prof is one thing but to immediately question his motives and his morality is real playground nonsense. If someone doesn't agree with you it does not make them a child molester, granny rapist and roadie.I couldn't agree more! Damn... now my preferred cycling is being compared to a child molester and granny rapist... Edited September 26, 2012 by andydude Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HappyMartin Posted September 26, 2012 Share Damn... now my preferred cycling is being compared to a child molester and granny rapist... Don't take it seriously. I love road cycling and was just trying to fit in here on the hub Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dracs Posted September 26, 2012 Share The Phinney thing and others point to a level of around 45-50% of diet being made up of carbs for high performing endurance athletes. The link I posted even has a pic of Cancellara... Anyway, I take Noakes' response there to be a little bit of back-peddaling when faced with the same questions I'd ask him.You seem to assume Noakes is of the extreme - zero carbs school for atheletes in all circumstances... he isn't as evidenced by his reply. Edited September 26, 2012 by dracs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TNT1 Posted September 26, 2012 Share You seem to assume Noakes is of the extreme - zero carbs school for atheletes in all circumstances... he isn't as evidenced by his reply. No way. Don't assume. I'm of the balance kinda guy. I'm like a chickpea. The perfect balance between carbs and protein, that little bugger is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davetapson Posted September 26, 2012 Share The first thing I discovered when I started to cycle was the concept of a diet to lose weight or a lifestyle change by following a sports diet. The first one is where you starve and deprive your body to get your weight down. The second is eating what your body wants when it needs it. Personally I've just started a low carb high protein diet (3rd week) and while its great, as soon as I start training again I will be consuming carbs during my rides. Look at the famous AJ Muti mix, best drink around for hitting the trails or training hard and its high in carbs. I've learn't to listen to my body, it knows best. Mmmm beer..... Tumbleweed and dracs 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dracs Posted September 26, 2012 Share No way. Don't assume. I'm of the balance kinda guy. I'm like a chickpea. The perfect balance between carbs and protein, that little bugger is.Is that click ckick click coming from above the sound of "back-peddaling" I hear? You are correct though - chickpeas are their own food group. somewhere between beer and pizza(the other 2 biggies) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tumbleweed Posted September 26, 2012 Share Mmmm beer..... Sjoe, I love this thread. So much sage advice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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