hayleyearth Posted November 30, 2015 Posted November 30, 2015 I've bought quite a few things lately but haver nr posted here in ages... Most exciting purchase of them all I think.... WrightJnr, Pieterlab1, Lexx and 7 others 10
AlanD Posted November 30, 2015 Posted November 30, 2015 I ran an 11 - 42T with an XT Medium cage and the standard screw. Did it clear... yesWould I recommend it... no. Why... because shifting was sluggish and got rather irritating. In fact, down-right crap! So if you're going to do a 10sp wide range cassette (even an 11 - 40T in my opinion), and you're not running a SRAM RD, then a RAD or RADr cage is needed to provide responsive, precise shifting. This here shows how the RAD and RADr cage better clear the sprockets by offsetting the upper pulley (which SRAM RDs already do).http://brimages.bikeboardmedia.netdna-cdn.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/06/OneUp-Components-RAD-Cage-Pulley-Wheel-posn.gif So the RAD is a replacement cage for the xt medium cage to improve shifting and not an entire RD? If the 40t works with the medium cage but has sluggish shifting, would the weekend warrior really notice a guge difference? Although precise shifting is sublime,will the cost of upgrade/replacement be worth it for the average rider?
Maximis Posted November 30, 2015 Posted November 30, 2015 So the RAD is a replacement cage for the xt medium cage to improve shifting and not an entire RD?If the 40t works with the medium cage but has sluggish shifting, would the weekend warrior really notice a guge difference? Although precise shifting is sublime,will the cost of upgrade/replacement be worth it for the average rider?Well I have put the new cassette, chain, and nw chainring... I have a medium cage xt shadow plus and I am having bugger all luck setting it up... I'm not sure if the chain is too short, or the cage is too short... I have set everything up as usual, all limit screws and b tension with barrel adjusting but cannot get it shifting properly and the chain is catching the cable clip arm ( where the wire cable it's tightened onto the derailleur)... It's a 11-42 wide range cassette with a 32 up front... I am so frustrated!!!!
WrightJnr Posted November 30, 2015 Posted November 30, 2015 Well I have put the new cassette, chain, and nw chainring... I have a medium cage xt shadow plus and I am having bugger all luck setting it up... I'm not sure if the chain is too short, or the cage is too short... I have set everything up as usual, all limit screws and b tension with barrel adjusting but cannot get it shifting properly and the chain is catching the cable clip arm ( where the wire cable it's tightened onto the derailleur)... It's a 11-42 wide range cassette with a 32 up front... I am so frustrated!!!!Picture(s) and maybe on another thread before we hijack this one. AlanD 1
AlanD Posted November 30, 2015 Posted November 30, 2015 Well I have put the new cassette, chain, and nw chainring... I have a medium cage xt shadow plus and I am having bugger all luck setting it up... I'm not sure if the chain is too short, or the cage is too short... I have set everything up as usual, all limit screws and b tension with barrel adjusting but cannot get it shifting properly and the chain is catching the cable clip arm ( where the wire cable it's tightened onto the derailleur)... It's a 11-42 wide range cassette with a 32 up front... I am so frustrated!!!!I also have the xt medium clutch RD and 32t upfront and was considering the wide range cassette but since you having trouble, patches comments are worth looking at. Does it shift throught gear at all? Perhaps a longer b-tension screw is needed?
Edge540 Posted November 30, 2015 Posted November 30, 2015 I've bought quite a few things lately but haver nr posted here in ages... Most exciting purchase of them all I think.... IMG_20151130_171410.jpgFit a dropper and you'll have an awesome ride
AlanD Posted November 30, 2015 Posted November 30, 2015 Picture(s) and maybe on another thread before we hijack this one.Yes, agreed.
hayleyearth Posted November 30, 2015 Posted November 30, 2015 Fit a dropper and you'll have an awesome ride I stood on it, it bent a bit, I think I am too heavy....needed to pay for a decent setup/sizing rather it seems...damn lbs! Edge540 1
Stretch Posted November 30, 2015 Posted November 30, 2015 I've bought quite a few things lately but haver nr posted here in ages... Most exciting purchase of them all I think.... IMG_20151130_171410.jpgI'm guessing that's for a Niece or a god child... Or I'm seriously out of touch! Lol Steven Knoetze (sk27) 1
Tumbleweed Posted December 1, 2015 Posted December 1, 2015 I'm guessing that's for a Niece or a god child... Or I'm seriously out of touch! Lol I was thinking the exact same thing...Hayley? Edge540 1
hayleyearth Posted December 1, 2015 Posted December 1, 2015 (edited) I'm guessing that's for a Niece or a god child... Or I'm seriously out of touch! Lol I was thinking the exact same thing...Hayley? No not just yet me guys, might have found a potential donor though, just need to ask him still Edit: it is for my niece in Canada Edited December 1, 2015 by hayleyearth Tumbleweed and Stretch 2
Heel Drop Posted December 1, 2015 Posted December 1, 2015 I've bought quite a few things lately but haver nr posted here in ages... Most exciting purchase of them all I think.... IMG_20151130_171410.jpgnice couch
patches Posted December 1, 2015 Posted December 1, 2015 (edited) So the RAD is a replacement cage for the xt medium cage to improve shifting and not an entire RD? If the 40t works with the medium cage but has sluggish shifting, would the weekend warrior really notice a guge difference? Although precise shifting is sublime,will the cost of upgrade/replacement be worth it for the average rider? Correct. If you have a 10sp SLX, XT, or XTR Shadow+ RD in medium cage, then you can simply use the RAD cage. This replaces the outer part of your medium cage. One still uses the inner cage. This is the cheaper option. If you have a Zee, Saint Shadow+ or an SLX, XT, or XTR in long cage, then you will require the RADr cage. This replaces both the inner and outer cages. This is the option I went for. I paid R700 incl. shipping from Bibi. Is the cost worth it. Yes. I was running 34T NW up front with 11-42T at the back. XT medium cage with B-screw all the way in. It cleared the 42T, BUT shifting was extremely delayed and often one couldn't shift down into a desired gear. They would have to shift down past it then up into it. This process becomes rather annoying. PLUS keep in mind that the chain growth of a dual suss also affects the operation of the RD. Anything more than 25mm on the standard medium cage RD with standard B-screw and you could have problems. So yeah, I would recommend the cage. Heck, even Shimano knew their 10sp Shadow+ system wasn't perfect for wide range, so when they went 11sp with the XT 8000, look where they shifted the upper jockey wheel to...Off the pivot centre, like the RAD and RADr cages do http://www.sicklines.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/04/Shimano-XT-2016-RD-M8000-SGS_zz_zz_STD_S1_draft.jpg Edited December 1, 2015 by patches Captain Fastbastard Mayhem, DJR, Jinga and 1 other 4
BarHugger Posted December 1, 2015 Posted December 1, 2015 No not just yet me guys, might have found a potential donor though, just need to ask him still Edit: it is for my niece in Canada Come now......spill the beans.......is it Chukky ?
paulcartmel Posted December 1, 2015 Posted December 1, 2015 Colango C60 from Alpine Sports. Thanks Mark Nel. [no I'm not a Campy fan] Bar603, Spoke101, Escapee.. and 9 others 12
AlanD Posted December 1, 2015 Posted December 1, 2015 Correct. If you have a 10sp SLX, XT, or XTR Shadow+ RD in medium cage, then you can simply use the RAD cage. This replaces the outer part of your medium cage. One still uses the inner cage. This is the cheaper option. If you have a Zee, Saint Shadow+ or an SLX, XT, or XTR in long cage, then you will require the RADr cage. This replaces both the inner and outer cages. This is the option I went for. I paid R700 incl. shipping from Bibi. Is the cost worth it. Yes. I was running 34T NW up front with 11-42T at the back. XT medium cage with B-screw all the way in. It cleared the 42T, BUT shifting was extremely delayed and often one couldn't shift down into a desired gear. They would have to shift down past it then up into it. This process becomes rather annoying. PLUS keep in mind that the chain growth of a dual suss also affects the operation of the RD. Anything more than 25mm on the standard medium cage RD with standard B-screw and you could have problems. So yeah, I would recommend the cage. Heck, even Shimano knew their 10sp Shadow+ system wasn't perfect for wide range, so when they went 11sp with the XT 8000, look where they shifted the upper jockey wheel to...Off the pivot centre, like the RAD and RADr cages do http://www.sicklines.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/04/Shimano-XT-2016-RD-M8000-SGS_zz_zz_STD_S1_draft.jpgRight, the shifting down the up again to the right gear is shyte and annoying. Makes perfect sense then to use the RAD replacent cage qhen going wide ride. Thanks for that info as i was considering the wide range cassette as some point but now know the RD needs to change along with it.
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