Why is Tubeless better.

[Wannabe]

I'm dreading the day I need to tjoop that Geax but its wearing down so slowly I'll only be replacing it next year! I'd better start carrying proper tyre levers. Last time I tjooped the RR I didn't even need a tyre lever.

What Geax's are you using?

I have the Saguarno and Mezcal's fitted. They come off easy, and also seat very easily.

[jcza]

What Geax's are you using?

I have the Saguarno and Mezcal's fitted. They come off easy, and also seat very easily.

 

Got the Saguaro on back wheel. Haven't taken it off yet but I've been told its difficult.

[patches]

What Geax's are you using?

I have the Saguarno and Mezcal's fitted. They come off easy, and also seat very easily.

Got the Saguaro on back wheel. Haven't taken it off yet but I've been told its difficult.

 

The rim design can affect the ease of the installation/removal quite a bit too.

 

I run wider than average rims (29mm) on the bike which has the Geax. The wider the trickier.

[Wez-O]

Although I do agree there are many pros about going tubeless, I was recently on a group ride and one of the guys got a rather bad puncture on a tubeless tire. It literally took them about half an hour to fix it after several puncture plugs didn't do the trick and slim had sprayed everywhere.

[Stretched@Birth]

The rim design can affect the ease of the installation/removal quite a bit too.

 

I run wider than average rims (29mm) on the bike which has the Geax. The wider the trickier.

So you admitting that 29er wheels are better

[nishiki]

So I dont have tubeless , and get a puncture now and again , then I replace the tube , quick 5 min job.

 

What happens out on a ride when a tubeless get a flat or puncture?

 

 

Does tubeless not get punctures?

[Clinton1]

I'm old school. Tubes are good for me. I always carry at least 1 spare tube plus puncture repair kit. I get a puncture and 5-10 mins later I am up and running again.

 

Running at lower pressures MAY mean more grip BUT it also means you going slower.

 

Tubeless does NOT equate to less weight.

 

I have seen far too many tubeless rides ending abruptly.

 

The five "likes" for this post seems to indicate that there are a few out there that are also not convinced by this tubeless thing.

[TopFuel]

Well, whilst my bike was in the shop, I took my father's Giant to Durbanville to ride in the vineyards there. I had 4 punctures on that ride alone. Took my bike to that same area, rode it with no issues. I dunno, I've heard stories and it has happened to me once (old sealant, puncture and rookie errors), but tubeless is a better option in my opinion. The people who have things against it have either never tried it, or have had a terrible experience. Either way, tubeless is a better option overall, IMHO.

[Vetseun]

What Geax's are you using?

I have the Saguarno and Mezcal's fitted. They come off easy, and also seat very easily.

I had a set of Mezcals and they were great . Rode over a broken bottle that some dronkie had thrown out of his car, Trashed both, Couldnt get new ones as stock is usually an issue in Bloem.

[rouxtjie]

 

 

The five "likes" for this post seems to indicate that there are a few out there that are also not convinced by this tubeless thing.

Yea we are sheeple......dude seriously not everything is a blerrie conspiracy. It's really nice fit and forget upgrade that saves you from changing tubes and gives you more riding time instead of trailside repair time. Use it...don't use it.

 

Rouxjie has a shot of patron for sayin sheeple....

[Wyatt Earp]

The five "likes" for this post seems to indicate that there are a few out there that are also not convinced by this tubeless thing.

This "tubeless thing" was in existence long before you even realized MTB's existed.

[kosmonooit]

Although I do agree there are many pros about going tubeless, I was recently on a group ride and one of the guys got a rather bad puncture on a tubeless tire. It literally took them about half an hour to fix it after several puncture plugs didn't do the trick and slim had sprayed everywhere.

 

Well I was on a ride recently when I helped a guy with tubes going flat multiple times, turns out his slimed spare (from cyclelab nogal) was a dud. Needless to say I had ample opportunity to extol the virtues of tubeless. I eventually had to lend him my spare tube, which I always carry and in two years since going tubeless have not needed.

 

Also pack a boot, plugs, puncture kit, and TIG Welder just in case.

[DoubleDee]

I have just recently converted to tubeless and one word of warning, don't use very lightweight tubeless tyres as they are prone to sidewall cuts! I got a sidewall cut in a river crossing during the Transbaviaans (sharp rock) and managed to put a worm plug in and bombed it and it lasted without losing any pressure for the rest of the race! Other than that 1 flat, no other punctures! Best upgrade if you are going to ride your MTB a lot!

[tombeej]

An analogy for those poor folk who continue to labour under the belief that thinner, harder tyres mean less rolling resistance offroad:

 

I drive my 4x4 to the beach to launch my boat. If I try drive onto the beach with fully pumped up tyres, I go straight up to my axles and that's it. Doesn't matter the fact that she's a beast and eats mountains for breakfast. Even if I shed the boat, or the fact that I've got a unichip installed, or huge torque, or the world's most powerful engine, my car is not going another cm. Why? Because of the extreme rolling resistance that my hard tyres have in the sand.

 

But if I drop my tyres to 1.3 bar - hey presto. I sail onto the beach, towing a 1 tonne ski boat with all gear on board and 3 buddies hitching a ride. Why? Because I now have minimal rolling resistance.

 

But then when I am leaving the beach and get back to the tar, I have to pump up my tyres again to the proper high pressure. Why? Because low pressure tyres on hard tar = very high rolling resistance (and increased chance of the tyre coming off the rim).

 

From personal experience, I can tell you (because I actually keep detailed stats of my training and rides) that when I went from high pressure thinner tubed tyres to low pressure wide (2.25) tyres, my ave. speed increased on average offroad by bout 2km/h. Now over a 45km course, that's almost 12 minutes faster.

 

Edit: corrected poor maths

Edited September 18, 2012 by tombeej

[Witkop]

I had a set of Mezcals and they were great . Rode over a broken bottle that some dronkie had thrown out of his car, Trashed both, Couldnt get new ones as stock is usually an issue in Bloem.

 

I have a st of GEax's on my bike. I have forgotten when I put them on. I think it was about four years ago, maybe five, On trans baviaans, two Karoo holiday tours and countless rides (daily commutes) and the damn things will not wear, puncture or get side wall cuts. I fear that they have merged with the rim tape and will outlast my rims. To change them may pose a bit of a problem, but I will face that maybe in another three years time........

[patches]

The rim design can affect the ease of the installation/removal quite a bit too.

 

I run wider than average rims (29mm) on the bike which has the Geax. The wider the trickier.

So you admitting that 29er wheels are better

 

haha! not at all... read again

Edited September 18, 2012 by patches