Heart Rate Max

[SwissVan]

No it doesnt. max is max. If you go over that either you had the wrong max or your equipment is not accurate (dried contacts, interferenace etc).

 

I reacon Max HR is overated, kind of like that Arugust race in March

All the popular formulas refer to MHR and hence people chase it like the holy grail of training.

 

Its good to do a max HR test and see how high you can push it...once…. for a training reference point its unnecessary.

Edited November 1, 2012 by SwissVan

[crasher]

Worked mine out to 183.5

 

Quite impressed with the formula as when on a training ride we had a bit of a go up the last 1.5kms of Hekpoort at time of giving up the chase basically 100m from the top I was hitting 182 and that was it nothing left to give so have been using 182 as my max since then.

 

 

The 220 less age would give me 174

[TopFuel]

No it doesnt. max is max. If you go over that either you had the wrong max or your equipment is not accurate (dried contacts, interferenace etc).

 

Yes, maximum heart rate is just a marker though. If you go over that, then your heart no longer pumps as effectively. That's why you start "seeing stars" near your MHR. You are saying the same thing as me.

[HappyMartin]

 

 

I reacon Max HR is overated, kind of like that Arugust race in March

All the popular formulas refer to MHR and hence people chase it like the holy grail of training.

 

Its good to do a max HR test and see how high you can push it...once…. for a training reference point its unnecessary.

 

Agreed. Other markers like lactate threshold are far more useful

[Help.Me.]

Sorry a bit of the topic but a very strange story......and my concern about the accuracy of the HR that gets monitored.......I've got a defibrillator and 1 morning while "jogging" with my wife (more something like loop en val) my Edge 800 went ballistic warning me about a very high heart rate ( i was wearing my strap with monitor in my hands) I was very worried because i was not feeling well(nasal drip and tight chest)for quite some time, but after blood test and chest x rays nothing was "wrong" . I did a download of my defibrillator and there was no record of the high HR my Edge picked up......there was only a activity where the defibrillator paced me out of a wrong heart rhythmic but about 10 min after the Edge warned me about a high HR so how accurate are the readings we see on our equipment ( Remember the Defibrillator goes directly into the heart muscle)

[The Ouzo]

I found the formula to be pretty accurate for me.

 

yesterday, 20km into my training ride I hit an incline and decided to go balls to the wall up it. I just touched 100% near the top and there was nothing left in me.

With the Max HR that the polar get using its fitness test I would have been 5 BPM over my max by that point.

[HappyMartin]

Sorry a bit of the topic but a very strange story......and my concern about the accuracy of the HR that gets monitored.......I've got a defibrillator and 1 morning while "jogging" with my wife (more something like loop en val) my Edge 800 went ballistic warning me about a very high heart rate ( i was wearing my strap with monitor in my hands) I was very worried because i was not feeling well(nasal drip and tight chest)for quite some time, but after blood test and chest x rays nothing was "wrong" . I did a download of my defibrillator and there was no record of the high HR my Edge picked up......there was only a activity where the defibrillator paced me out of a wrong heart rhythmic but about 10 min after the Edge warned me about a high HR so how accurate are the readings we see on our equipment ( Remember the Defibrillator goes directly into the heart muscle)

 

As you say a strange story but the part I find strange is you have a defibrillater and still went jogging while ill. Is that wise?

[Jaco-fiets]

use 210 - (age/2) - (0.02667 x (weight in pounds)) + 1.

 

most accurate formula for men.

 

Wow! almost correlates completey with my tested hr max when i was very fit!

[Christopher Brunsdon]

I found out this morning my max heart rate is now 194 (I'm 37 and overweight)

[andydude]

Worked mine out to 183.5

 

Quite impressed with the formula as when on a training ride we had a bit of a go up the last 1.5kms of Hekpoort at time of giving up the chase basically 100m from the top I was hitting 182 and that was it nothing left to give so have been using 182 as my max since then.

 

 

The 220 less age would give me 174

 

Make it higher. You'll very seldom hit your MHR on a training ride, and maybe your mind overrode your body in that you thought you can only go to 183 so you "stopped" at 182. There's always more in the tank! I had to up my MHR after hitting a higher number in an uphill sprint recently.

[Beesrib]

So if i follow the formule, is between 60% & 70% of MHR still the correct training zone for fat loss?

[V12man]

Sorry a bit of the topic but a very strange story......and my concern about the accuracy of the HR that gets monitored.......I've got a defibrillator and 1 morning while "jogging" with my wife (more something like loop en val) my Edge 800 went ballistic warning me about a very high heart rate ( i was wearing my strap with monitor in my hands) I was very worried because i was not feeling well(nasal drip and tight chest)for quite some time, but after blood test and chest x rays nothing was "wrong" . I did a download of my defibrillator and there was no record of the high HR my Edge picked up......there was only a activity where the defibrillator paced me out of a wrong heart rhythmic but about 10 min after the Edge warned me about a high HR so how accurate are the readings we see on our equipment ( Remember the Defibrillator goes directly into the heart muscle)

 

They are accurate enough for normal healthy people, but they are not so good on 'abnormal' rythms - sometimes they see the ectopics (and include them in the HR), sometimes not - certainly none that I know of publish that they can discern normal healthy rythms from abnormal conditions. They are also afected by all sorts of electrical fields from time to time like power lines and such (transformer boxes on the street too).

 

Bottom line - do not trust it completely if you have a medical condition that affects your normal heart rythmes.

 

You should in any case know better than to excercise when you are displaying symptoms of illness - especially if you have a defib implant - less than smart.