Helpmytrap Posted November 7, 2012 Posted November 7, 2012 Bare in mind this is off the interwebs,EPO Dosage and UsageWeekly dosage varies 50-300 IU per kilogram of body weight. By this guideline a 176 lb (80 kgs) athlete would take a maximum of 4000 U per injection. This would be done in the days/weeks prior to a competition, the peak effect hopefully reached near the day of the event. Sportsmen starts feeling results after two weeks of usage (hematocrit level increases 3-4%). Most of specialists agree that one should not use erythropoietin for more than six weeks!We find it optimal to use following schedule: Loading phase 4500-12000 IU for week 1-3 (6000 IU in average), then keep supportive dosage 3000-4000 IU for weeks 4-6. Weekly dosage is to be split on three equal shots.Also one can use this formula: 20-30 IU per kg for every shot (three shots a week). Conservative approach is 4500 IU / week (3 shots x 1500 IU) with 3000 IU supportive dosage (3 shots x 1000 IU).The higher dosage is - the more effect and more risks you gain. Anyway, it depends on the personal characteristics, base levels, target goals desired. Blood tests recommended if you're toying with higher doses. Take one tab of aspirin two times a day after meal or along with milk to prevent stomach damages (milk neutralizes aspirin acids). Aspirin will decrease blood viscosity thus decreasing risks of thrombosis which could be fatal during the long race due to sweating and extreme dehydration.In general, greater dosages of rhEPO induce a quicker response of increased erythropoiesis than lower dosages, however, they are more likely to be detectable by doping tests. If athlete is not in a rush, it's better to make three shots a week - peak form will be achieved anyway.http://www.buysteroidsprofile.com/buy_epo_erythropoietin.htm
Wyatt Earp Posted November 7, 2012 Posted November 7, 2012 Do you guys really believe that club / non-pro riders are doping as well?Why would they put their bodies and health at risk? Yes I do.Why, for image, ego and recognition. Why the vets and sub-vets ?The drugs are obviously not cheap, they fit the demographic perfectly, good income earners with some very affluent contacts.When you see a guy standing next to you and the temperature is 30 degrees and his skin looks like that of a freshly plucked chicken, it's seems to complete the picture. Sean32, mikeMT and Ramrod 3
Tumbleweed Posted November 7, 2012 Posted November 7, 2012 So due to my decision not to partake in any racing for the last 12 months I might have lost touch with reality or might just be naive. Do you guys really believe that club / non-pro riders are doping as well?Why would they put their bodies and health at risk? I am not questioning your statements, I am just trying to understand what they would gain. Are they hoping to be spotted by a sponsored team? This is really sad fi this is the message that gets communicated to our juniors Bragging rights.
Sean32 Posted November 7, 2012 Posted November 7, 2012 (edited) So due to my decision not to partake in any racing for the last 12 months I might have lost touch with reality or might just be naive. Do you guys really believe that club / non-pro riders are doping as well?Why would they put their bodies and health at risk? I am not questioning your statements, I am just trying to understand what they would gain. Are they hoping to be spotted by a sponsored team? This is really sad fi this is the message that gets communicated to our juniors Yes i do why i have no idea. It’s just like the dude taking steroids at the GYM why just so he can look bigger then the next Chop. Edited November 7, 2012 by Sean32 ChUkKy, Wyatt Earp and mikeMT 3
Ramrod Posted November 7, 2012 Posted November 7, 2012 Yes I do.Why, for image, ego and recognition. Why the vets and sub-vets ?The drugs are obviously not cheap, they fit the demographic perfectly, good income earners with some very affluent contacts.When you see a guy standing next to you and the temperature is 30 degrees and his skin looks like that of a freshly plucked chicken, it's seems to complete the picture.Whoa i have even seen some masters whos skin looks like that at the start of a race! Holy Crap. The question you have to ask yourself is - Is it really worth it? That short moment of fame for a lifetime of shame!
Wyatt Earp Posted November 7, 2012 Posted November 7, 2012 Whoa i have even seen some masters whos skin looks like that at the start of a race! Holy Crap. The question you have to ask yourself is - Is it really worth it? That short moment of fame for a lifetime of shame! LOL Did the penny just drop ? Ramrod 1
Ramrod Posted November 7, 2012 Posted November 7, 2012 LOL Did the penny just drop ?Call me un-educated or naive when it comes to doping. Kinda blind hope that our athletes have the interest of the sport at heart instead of their own needs. The penny has dropped! Wyatt Earp 1
davetapson Posted November 7, 2012 Posted November 7, 2012 Yes I do.Why, for image, ego and recognition. Why the vets and sub-vets ?The drugs are obviously not cheap, they fit the demographic perfectly, good income earners with some very affluent contacts.When you see a guy standing next to you and the temperature is 30 degrees and his skin looks like that of a freshly plucked chicken, it's seems to complete the picture. What's the story with the skin thing?
Raab Posted November 7, 2012 Posted November 7, 2012 seems like short term gain is what its all about, too bad EPO does not result in shrunken testis and bitch tits Ramrod 1
mikeMT Posted November 7, 2012 Posted November 7, 2012 (edited) Certain individuals are more prone to competitive behavior at any cost, it's an embedded DNA factor that certain people want to win at any costs, no matter what the risk, it's all about the glory Edited November 7, 2012 by mikeMT
Sean32 Posted November 7, 2012 Posted November 7, 2012 Yes I do.Why, for image, ego and recognition. Why the vets and sub-vets ?The drugs are obviously not cheap, they fit the demographic perfectly, good income earners with some very affluent contacts.When you see a guy standing next to you and the temperature is 30 degrees and his skin looks like that of a freshly plucked chicken, it's seems to complete the picture. vets and sub-vets ?Definatly the first place to start. Wyatt Earp 1
Mackie Posted November 7, 2012 Posted November 7, 2012 After reading DG's statement again, I realized how arrogant it actually is, don't bother with the B I'm guilty, you suckers, throw the book at me, I've made my money. Sueing to get the money back is a long and costly affair, he'll get banned and that's it, the selfishness of his actions astound me, he must have a very thick skin.
Wyatt Earp Posted November 7, 2012 Posted November 7, 2012 What's the story with the skin thing? What do you mean ?Is it normal for someone to be shivering on a 30 degree day in the blazing sun with goose-flesh ?It's a common sign that most who know about it first look for.
Garfield2010 Posted November 7, 2012 Posted November 7, 2012 If you dope then you are doing cycling for the wrong reasons. If people (average joes) dope to win in cycling, what else would they do to win in other aspects of life? Who cares in any case. I race against myself. ChUkKy 1
Wyatt Earp Posted November 7, 2012 Posted November 7, 2012 Call me un-educated or naive when it comes to doping. Kinda blind hope that our athletes have the interest of the sport at heart instead of their own needs. The penny has dropped! Did you not see me pop a slice of toast at the halfway mark on Sunday Ramrod 1
Mackie Posted November 7, 2012 Posted November 7, 2012 Testing sub vets makes sense, often these people have serious money, as at that age you are generally in your earning prime, and cock measuring contests between 35's is also at their prime. It's all about checking results of the race on a Monday and mailing your mates to see who has bragging rights for the week.
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