cadenceblur Posted May 23, 2020 Posted May 23, 2020 Attempted the longer session today and it went well! Started a bit late so had to cut the session short but in principle I'm happy and sure I'll be able to complete two hours next time.
cadenceblur Posted June 2, 2020 Posted June 2, 2020 so managed the two hour session on Saturday - very happy. Thanks for the advise guys! Went for first "outride" yesterday (Level 3) with interesting results.. Stupid me didn't do the normal pre- ride calibration on the PM - only realised halfway into the workout.Did just over an hour ride and upon completing the ride got notification that I have a new threshold..Now here's the question: do I ignore it? It's 20% more than current!For context, ride was measured with a stages PM (MTB), whilst I train on trainer with Powertap pedals..My head tells me that I should discard the ride and do another FTP test on the trainer?My previous test was after not doing structured training for a while so perhaps the bar was a bit on the low side as well. Could the above be a factor in resulting in the improved metrics? Got 155 TSS for the 1h08 ride with IF obviously huge as well? Your thoughts guys?
shaper Posted June 2, 2020 Posted June 2, 2020 so managed the two hour session on Saturday - very happy. Thanks for the advise guys! Went for first "outride" yesterday (Level 3) with interesting results.. Stupid me didn't do the normal pre- ride calibration on the PM - only realised halfway into the workout.Did just over an hour ride and upon completing the ride got notification that I have a new threshold..Now here's the question: do I ignore it? It's 20% more than current!For context, ride was measured with a stages PM (MTB), whilst I train on trainer with Powertap pedals..My head tells me that I should discard the ride and do another FTP test on the trainer?My previous test was after not doing structured training for a while so perhaps the bar was a bit on the low side as well. Could the above be a factor in resulting in the improved metrics? Got 155 TSS for the 1h08 ride with IF obviously huge as well? Your thoughts guys?155 TSS for 1:08hr ride tells me your current FTP is set too low. What type of workout did you do? was it a lot of VO2max or aerobic sweet spot? If you don't want to do a full FTP test, do a ramp test. which is quick and less painful. It will also give you a good indication of which FTP to consider. I suspect it will be closer to your new threshold notification rather than your current FTP.
cadenceblur Posted June 2, 2020 Posted June 2, 2020 It was a MTB ride, so quite erratic, more VO2 Max.I reckon I have gotten stronger and that the previous FTP was on the low side - will look at the ramp test. Was also worried that the lack of calibration and different equipment was a factor
Frosty Posted June 3, 2020 Posted June 3, 2020 Off topic.... how you finding using WKO4, I know you have used it for a few years I have had a look at WKO5, (had the 2 week trial). The expressions and formula's seems like you have to do a lot of learning. The basic charts I can pretty much get with Golden Cheetah. Only thing I briefly saw of interest was that of iLevels..... wondering if worth the cost? iLevels? Not sure I know what that is. Will have to read up on it. I struggled with Golden Cheetah, and found the WKO4 interface easier. The cost was once off, which I prefer to a monthly subscription. That was in 2016, I think, when I was a little more serious, and had time to train and race. I probably use a fraction of the potential of WKO4, even less now that I’m just riding for fun. I use the word “fun” lightly, as I will always try ride in the front 20 places in a race. It’s nice to see some additional information on specific pets of my ride/race.So I found out today that WKO4 has an issue with the SSL certificate that affects Mac users only. They pulled a Strava, and no longer allow syncing between TP and WKO4, effective from 31 May. They're also stopping all support from 1 July. Guess I need to learn how to use Golden Cheetah, while now have to manually upload all my workouts to WKO4.
shaper Posted June 3, 2020 Posted June 3, 2020 So I found out today that WKO4 has an issue with the SSL certificate that affects Mac users only. They pulled a Strava, and no longer allow syncing between TP and WKO4, effective from 31 May. They're also stopping all support from 1 July. Guess I need to learn how to use Golden Cheetah, while now have to manually upload all my workouts to WKO4.Just been reading furious comments on facebook from users with regard to no longer being supported and the 50% offer to upgrade. Rather disgusted is the sentiment I gather you can still use WKO4 as a stand alone but will have to upload your workouts from your device rather than sync from an online source. I had a look at WKO5 with the free 2 week period and was not overly impressed in the way they promote it. Am on the facebook users group and there seems to be many issues with it. Only interesting parts are the online webinars which you can adapt to your training as well as analysis..... so i have decided to stay with Golden Cheetah for now as think that at even 50% discount, WKO5 is not worth the money Edit: I also use Xert in conjuntion with Golden Cheetah
Frosty Posted June 3, 2020 Posted June 3, 2020 Just been reading furious comments on facebook from users with regard to no longer being supported and the 50% offer to upgrade. Rather disgusted is the sentiment I gather you can still use WKO4 as a stand alone but will have to upload your workouts from your device rather than sync from an online source. I had a look at WKO5 with the free 2 week period and was not overly impressed in the way they promote it. Am on the facebook users group and there seems to be many issues with it. Only interesting parts are the online webinars which you can adapt to your training as well as analysis..... so i have decided to stay with Golden Cheetah for now as think that at even 50% discount, WKO5 is not worth the money Edit: I also use Xert in conjuntion with Golden CheetahThankfully I can still use the software, but as you rightly said, I have to manually upload. Not a major train smash - I'll probably do it weekly, and then analyze. It still has some good features, but I'm not going to be conned into upgrading, when some users also state that one needs to be on MacOS 10.15. That puts my wife's business apps/software at risk, as she's on 10.13 and we have no intention of upgrading the 2011 iMac. I'll start with GC and see how it goes. At least I have some local resources to speak to, if I need help.
Frosty Posted June 15, 2020 Posted June 15, 2020 Last week465 TSS - should have been been 500, but Saturday's ride was cut shorter in the cold.IF 0.876:28:22
The Crazy German Posted September 19, 2020 Posted September 19, 2020 My knees have been a bit sore this week even at work or on easy rides. Started ising them, should have done that earlier I blame last weeks TSS of about 1900 or so
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