Weight Weenie Posted January 2, 2013 Share My 2c is that if he gets hurt, then Groenkloof somehow gets blamed and next thing we know we can't ride there anymore. Tell him to get a helmet next time I say Danger Dassie, Bianchi, Meezo and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bianchi Posted January 2, 2013 Share My 2c is that if he gets hurt, then Groenkloof somehow gets blamed and next thing we know we can't ride there anymore.Tell him to get a helmet next time I say I like this answer. In the event that something happens and Groenkloof gets screwed legally, then our riding there could be in jeopardy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
'Dale Posted January 2, 2013 Share Who cares... Leave the oke alone His pip is clearly harder than all of ours, they grow them strong out there in Pretoria Thats where the Bulle come from remember, heads of steel.... look at Bakkies :-D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wynandvdmerwe Posted January 2, 2013 Share if he falls and crack his DOP, there will not be too much extra damage...FFS Idiot...Google the anatomy of the Human Brain and wake up, your hair looks greasy anyway so hide it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
facepalm Posted January 2, 2013 Share Check the wine bottle in his bottle cage. What a moegoe Meezo 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bikekid Posted January 2, 2013 Share Correct. They did not stop him from riding and therefore they did not exclude themselves from liability (I will quickly find out). Edit: Okay yeah, Groenkloof may be held liable if someone is not stopped when riding without a helmet, since they are not enforcing the rule (100% of the time). Are there signs up saying no helmet no ride? If so, wouldn't that absolve Gk of any blame? Realisticly speaking can they check every single person? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bianchi Posted January 2, 2013 Share Are there signs up saying no helmet no ride? If so, wouldn't that absolve Gk of any blame? Realisticly speaking can they check every single person? Yes there are signs, it's also on the website.Thing is, they're supposed to enforce it. From a legal standpoint I was told that failure to enforce it would hold Gk negligent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meezo Posted January 2, 2013 Share I disagree - he wears cycling shoes and cleats, not tekkies. One would expect him to have a helmet as well. . Edited January 2, 2013 by Meezo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mojoman Posted January 2, 2013 Share Are there signs up saying no helmet no ride? If so, wouldn't that absolve Gk of any blame? Realisticly speaking can they check every single person?I havent been there but I assume there is one entry and exit point (after making payment)?If so and the rider was allowed to pass through with no lid on his pip then I think they could be held liable.If he passed through with a lid but took it off on route then I think its a different issure. Edited January 2, 2013 by Mojoman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobbie Posted January 2, 2013 Share enough said: eddy, ChUkKy and Escapee.. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kosmonooit Posted January 2, 2013 Share There's a sign as you drive in, clear as the Voortrekker Monument: no helmet, no ride. Have not seen or signed a disclaimer though. You should be made to sign as you enter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bikekid Posted January 2, 2013 Share Yes there are signs, it's also on the website.Thing is, they're supposed to enforce it. From a legal standpoint I was told that failure to enforce it would hold Gk negligent.I havent been there but I assume there is one entry and exit point (after making payment)?If so and the rider was allowed to pass through with no lid on his pip then I think they could be held liable.If he passed through with a lid but took it off on route then I think its a different issure. Aah - it's a pity that GK could be held liable even though there are signs and people choose to ignore them. I agree that they should maybe monitor but sometimes it's not possible. I guess payment could only be accepted upon presentation of a helmet.. Edited January 2, 2013 by robinh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rudi-h Posted January 2, 2013 Share i agree that riding there is subject to wearing a helmet by the rules of the reserve. however all the guys suggesting that he's gonna fall and spill his grey matter all over the trail... that's a bit OTT there's riding and there's riding. if you take a rustige chill ride with the girlfriend, missing all the technical bits, its probably a LOT safer to ride without a helmet than trying to do jumps and crazy fast downhills with one... I think the cycling community should be more concerned about guys littering their gu sachets in the reserves. chances of them closing it down due to litter is greater than some oke with a concussion. Caerus and DaLoCo 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caerus Posted January 2, 2013 Share i agree that riding there is subject to wearing a helmet by the rules of the reserve. however all the guys suggesting that he's gonna fall and spill his grey matter all over the trail... that's a bit OTT there's riding and there's riding. if you take a rustige chill ride with the girlfriend, missing all the technical bits, its probably a LOT safer to ride without a helmet than trying to do jumps and crazy fast downhills with one... I think the cycling community should be more concerned about guys littering their gu sachets in the reserves. chances of them closing it down due to litter is greater than some oke with a concussion.+1, in saying that the rules of the park should apply, as others have said it could potentially have far bigger consequences if he was to fall and hit his head. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kosmonooit Posted January 2, 2013 Share I caught up and passed above mentioned uncapped couple at Groeinies on one of those first detour mtb paths from the tar road, where they were meandering very slowly. The path wasn't too technical, but there was a few rocks to stall a slow moving wheel and send the rider face planting .You don't know what you don't know! Friend of mine in CT bought a mtb on my advice, not really used much after a first ride down to the shops, where she went over the handle bars after yanking the brakes, narrowing missing connecting her cranium on the curb stone. She had no idea discs could be so sharp. She was not wearing a helmet (didn't own one at that stage) I got the feeling she didn't like the concept of a helmet mainly due to aesthetics. Edited January 2, 2013 by kosmonooit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davem Posted January 2, 2013 Share Reasons to be concerned about others not wearing a helmet:If they crack there pip, I will render first aid when I pass, that will probably screw up my dayIf they crack there pip, their medical aid, which I may also be a member of will be faced with large bills to pay, making my/your medical aid more expensiveif they crack thier pip and are not on medical aid, my/your tax will pay for his ambulance, treatment etc which could rather be spent on better thingsChoosing to disobey laws and safety rules does impact on others and is not a victimless crime. Edited January 2, 2013 by davem Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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