Your Enduro ride

[Hairy]

Look here, if you are working this weekend I am more than happy to take that bike off your hands for the weekend

Thanks, what you mean? Parts wise or ride? Have yet to hit a trail, I st been too busy

[Meezo]

Look here, if you are working this weekend I am more than happy to take that bike off your hands for the weekend

Are you allowed to ride now weekends?

[Eddy Gordo]

Look here, if you are working this weekend I am more than happy to take that bike off your hands for the weekend

I work every sat, but free the afternoon, so most likely ride then. Sundays are a diff story unless early morn as in sunrise. That's gonna have to change to tokai times now.

[Hairy]

you been working hard ... take the weekend off and I will take your bike out

I work every sat, but free the afternoon, so most likely ride then. Sundays are a diff story unless early morn as in sunrise. That's gonna have to change to tokai times now.

[Hairy]

some private work has been keeping me busy the last few months .... 

oh, and T'sek Tchjina

 

 

Are you allowed to ride now weekends?

 

[Meezo]

some private work has been keeping me busy the last few months ....

oh, and T'sek Tchjina

You and your girl friend JasonS must show me around again sometime, or we must mission a jonkershoek

[Hairy]

we have broken up .... he would not give up on wearing his/her white shoes!

 

Jonkers over December holidays sounds good.

 

 

You and your girl friend JasonS must show me around again sometime, or we must mission a jonkershoek

[Meezo]

we have broken up .... he would not give up on wearing his/her white shoes!

 

Jonkers over December holidays sounds good.

Rad lemme know what weekend suits you guys, convince eddy to join too, maybe mayhew also

[Eddy Gordo]

I am on leave from Xmas. A mid week session can work!

[MarcBurger]

For your Monday woes, I give you a challenge.

 

I am in a predicament: I had 2 "enduro" bikes. One hard tail (HT) and one full sus (FS). Now I only have one (the FS) and after riding the other, it feels like absolute crap.

 

The 3 main issues are:

1. In fast corners - I now seem to be weaving in and out, rather than just holding a consistent line.
2. On jumps, I'm tending to "dead sailor" a lot more than before.
3. general not-niceness. (technical term there for ya)

Now I put it to you guys to deduce the main antagonist, as there are many differences other than having or not having rear travel.

 

Rims:

HT: 30mm IW

FS: 21mm IW

 

same tires.

 

Bars:

HT: 800mm

FS: 760mm

 

Stem:

HT: 45mm

FS: 60mm

 

Fork:

HT: Fox34 Factory - 160mm - Boost

FS: RS Pike RCT3 - 160mm - non-boost

 

• Could it be just down to cockpit setup? So if I duplicate my HT setup I'd duplicate the results?
• Does rim IW make that much of a difference?
• Or could it be that I know absolutely nothing about suspension setup and I got lucky when tinkering with the 34?

*edit: Updated forks

[Hairy]

maybe something as simple as rebound setup on the fork and shock?

 

For your Monday woes, I give you a challenge.

 

I am in a predicament: I had 2 "enduro" bikes. One hard tail (HT) and one full sus (FS). Now I only have one (the FS) and after riding the other, it feels like absolute crap.

 

The 3 main issues are:

1. In fast corners - I now seem to be weaving in and out, rather than just holding a consistent line.
2. On jumps, I'm tending to "dead sailor" a lot more than before.
3. general not-niceness. (technical term there for ya)

Now I put it to you guys to deduce the main antagonist, as there are many differences other than having or not having rear travel.

 

Rims:

HT: 30mm IW

FS: 21mm IW

 

same tires.

 

Bars:

HT: 800mm

FS: 760mm

 

Stem:

HT: 45mm

FS: 60mm

 

Fork:

HT: Fox34 - 160mm - Boost

FS: RS Pike - 160mm - non-boost

 

• Could it be just down to cockpit setup? So if I duplicate my HT setup I'd duplicate the results?
• Does rim IW make that much of a difference?
• Or could it be that I know absolutely nothing about suspension setup and I got lucky when tinkering with the 34?

 

[Captain Fastbastard Mayhem]

 

For your Monday woes, I give you a challenge.

 

I am in a predicament: I had 2 "enduro" bikes. One hard tail (HT) and one full sus (FS). Now I only have one (the FS) and after riding the other, it feels like absolute crap.

 

The 3 main issues are:

1. In fast corners - I now seem to be weaving in and out, rather than just holding a consistent line.
2. On jumps, I'm tending to "dead sailor" a lot more than before.
3. general not-niceness. (technical term there for ya)

 

 

• Could it be just down to cockpit setup? So if I duplicate my HT setup I'd duplicate the results?

   

  YES

   

• Does rim IW make that much of a difference?

   

  Not in the way you're describing, but it could be a small contributor ito outright grip. Going from 24 to 35mm I noticed a distinct increase in grip, which gave me a bit more confidence. Also - less tyre roll.

 

• Or could it be that I know absolutely nothing about suspension setup and I got lucky when tinkering with the 34?

   

  Also very possible. If it's the RC Dual position pike, sorry... crap damper. If it's the RCT3, play around a bit with pressures, tokens etc. 

 

[usxorf]

For your Monday woes, I give you a challenge.

 

I am in a predicament: I had 2 "enduro" bikes. One hard tail (HT) and one full sus (FS). Now I only have one (the FS) and after riding the other, it feels like absolute crap.

 

The 3 main issues are:

• In fast corners - I now seem to be weaving in and out, rather than just holding a consistent line.
• On jumps, I'm tending to "dead sailor" a lot more than before.
• general not-niceness. (technical term there for ya)

Now I put it to you guys to deduce the main antagonist, as there are many differences other than having or not having rear travel.

 

Rims:

HT: 30mm IW

FS: 21mm IW

 

same tires.

 

Bars:

HT: 800mm

FS: 760mm

 

Stem:

HT: 45mm

FS: 60mm

 

Fork:

HT: Fox34 Factory - 160mm - Boost

FS: RS Pike RCT3 - 160mm - non-boost

• Could it be just down to cockpit setup? So if I duplicate my HT setup I'd duplicate the results?
• Does rim IW make that much of a difference?
• Or could it be that I know absolutely nothing about suspension setup and I got lucky when tinkering with the 34?

*edit: Updated forks

I may be on the extreme side of things but it took me about 4 months of weekends to get used to a new bike. So apart from the setup it could just be that the fs requires different body English to get it to do what you want. Weight a bit more forward while cornering, or a bit of a bar twist while jumping so you don't sailor.

 

I was ready to give up but then it all clicked, without changing any setup. But a 60mm stem has no place on a #duro, and 800 for life.

[MarcBurger]

It's not a new bike. I've had it for going on 5 years now. Was just a matter of not knowing what you're missing out on until you try another bike with a different setup and components, then trying to mimic the other bike's positives while taking note of the negatives.

 

Will definitely do a lot of tinkering with the suspension. I generally do, just haven't found that sweet spot on the Pike. The Fox came great out of the box (did need a longer run-in period than I remember doing on the Pike though)

Absolute worst case I'll borrow someones shockwiz and do Haka till I fall over.

 

Am definitely swapping out the cockpit a bit: Will do a 50mm stem with 780-790mm bars to start. 800 was a bit long, was just lazy to cut them.

The main concern over the stem is my HT was quite a bit longer than the FS. Might make the bike feel a bit cramped.

 

Will see.

 

El Bike, for reference:

 

*Edit: will definitely try taking a mental note of the bar twist. thanks 

[Captain Fastbastard Mayhem]

It's not a new bike. I've had it for going on 5 years now. Was just a matter of not knowing what you're missing out on until you try another bike with a different setup and components, then trying to mimic the other bike's positives while taking note of the negatives.

 

Will definitely do a lot of tinkering with the suspension. I generally do, just haven't found that sweet spot on the Pike. The Fox came great out of the box (did need a longer run-in period than I remember doing on the Pike though)

Absolute worst case I'll borrow someones shockwiz and do Haka till I fall over.

 

Am definitely swapping out the cockpit a bit: Will do a 50mm stem with 780-790mm bars to start. 800 was a bit long, was just lazy to cut them.

The main concern over the stem is my HT was quite a bit longer than the FS. Might make the bike feel a bit cramped.

 

Will see.

 

El Bike, for reference:

 

*Edit: will definitely try taking a mental note of the bar twist. thanks 

Hmmmmm... bold bit makes me think you're on the wrong size bike, which will definitely contribute to what you're feeling. 

[GrahamS2]

My experience with the Pike on my Intense was that it takes a lot of setup to get right, and a lot of fiddling with the rear to get the whole rig feeling balanced. Sounds like you may have something similar.

 

I'd start from scratch: redo setup on fork and shock, then redo cockpit setup, then revisit fork and shock.