djsam Posted October 7, 2013 Share Not sure I'll be racing but i am sure i will enjoy the ride , i start the journey to Shova on Wednesday morning with a 4 day ride pretty excited.. Jakkals. and Andyr249 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tombeej Posted October 8, 2013 Share Weather is looking *** for Sunday. Max. 12 - 14 degrees, drizzle, and the south-easter will be blowing. Essentially this means a head wind, and the SE is a cold wind. Wind chill should bring perceived temps down into single digits. The descent down Fields Hill should be an interesting one if it's slick. Pack the thermals, folks. Andyr249 and Jakkals. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andyr249 Posted October 8, 2013 Share Just my type of conditions!!! Reminds me of the Etape last year. Descent of Tourmalet was EXTREMELY interest in the wet with mist that you couldn't see 10m in front of you!You do learn to descent in the wet very quickly. Haha Edited October 8, 2013 by Andyr249 Jakkals. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jakkals. Posted October 8, 2013 Share Weather is looking *** for Sunday. Max. 12 - 14 degrees, drizzle, and the south-easter will be blowing. Essentially this means a head wind, and the SE is a cold wind. Wind chill should bring perceived temps down into single digits. The descent down Fields Hill should be an interesting one if it's slick. Pack the thermals, folks. I'm like Nibali..... wishing for it to be cold and wet Andyr249 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garfield2010 Posted October 8, 2013 Share Weather is looking *** for Sunday. Max. 12 - 14 degrees, drizzle, and the south-easter will be blowing. Essentially this means a head wind, and the SE is a cold wind. Wind chill should bring perceived temps down into single digits. The descent down Fields Hill should be an interesting one if it's slick. Pack the thermals, folks. Well maybe its a blessing to ride into the wind if its wet and downhill. #bettertocrashat35km/hourthan70km Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jakkals. Posted October 8, 2013 Share Well maybe its a blessing to ride into the wind if its wet and downhill. #bettertocrashat35km/hourthan70km new frame, yes please Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tombeej Posted October 8, 2013 Share My problem is that since this is my first race in years (last race was '99 XCO Nationals), I don't have a seeding. So they stuck me in P batch (2nd last batch). I've got a 106km individual TT to look forward to, and into a cold/wet head wind the whole way. Fun, fun, fun! Edited October 8, 2013 by tombeej Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jakkals. Posted October 8, 2013 Share My problem is that since this is my first race in years (last race was '99 XCO Nationals), I don't have a seeding. So they stuck me in P batch (2nd last batch). I've got a 106km individual TT to look forward to, and into a cold/wet head wind the whole way. Fun, fun, fun! Sounds about right Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ecko_1 Posted October 8, 2013 Share What should be my approach to this race, being my first Amashova 106km (I have ridden the 35km twice)? I am not a fast rider, nor am I a tortoise. None of my regular riding buddies are starting in my batch or nearby batches. Do I ride the entire route on my own? What is race etiquitte regarding drafting? Is it ok to hop into a line? Will people not get pissed off with me for stealing free draft? My thoughts are that good manners dictate that I take a turn breaking the wind as well, but my worry is that I will slow down the pack.As a base for my fitness, I did the Durban Engen Challenge in 3:24. I am aiming to finish the Shova in 4:30. I ride 200km per week on average, with just one big 80-100km ride per week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patchelicious Posted October 8, 2013 Share What should be my approach to this race, being my first Amashova 106km (I have ridden the 35km twice)? I am not a fast rider, nor am I a tortoise. None of my regular riding buddies are starting in my batch or nearby batches. Do I ride the entire route on my own? What is race etiquitte regarding drafting? Is it ok to hop into a line? Will people not get pissed off with me for stealing free draft? My thoughts are that good manners dictate that I take a turn breaking the wind as well, but my worry is that I will slow down the pack.As a base for my fitness, I did the Durban Engen Challenge in 3:24. I am aiming to finish the Shova in 4:30. I ride 200km per week on average, with just one big 80-100km ride per week. If you are doing 200km per week, then you should be aiming for close on 3 hour. If not then those 200km a week are done very incorrectly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ecko_1 Posted October 8, 2013 Share If you are doing 200km per week, then you should be aiming for close on 3 hour. If not then those 200km a week are done very incorrectly.So, context. About 60km of the riding is actually 2 days commute done the long way around to incorporate some hills. Around 60km will be circuit training on flat surface. The balance of my riding will be the big ride, and sometimes a smaller ride on sundays if i have time. I know I cannot do sub 3. I ride with sub 3 riders now and then and I take huge strain. Especially on the hills(training more hills now). I am just trying to complete the shova to set a base time as I have been riding seriously for 6 months. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andyr249 Posted October 8, 2013 Share What should be my approach to this race, being my first Amashova 106km (I have ridden the 35km twice)? I am not a fast rider, nor am I a tortoise. None of my regular riding buddies are starting in my batch or nearby batches. Do I ride the entire route on my own? What is race etiquitte regarding drafting? Is it ok to hop into a line? Will people not get pissed off with me for stealing free draft? My thoughts are that good manners dictate that I take a turn breaking the wind as well, but my worry is that I will slow down the pack.As a base for my fitness, I did the Durban Engen Challenge in 3:24. I am aiming to finish the Shova in 4:30. I ride 200km per week on average, with just one big 80-100km ride per week. Just approach it like you did the Engen race (if you did the long distance which from the time you gave it sounds like you did).Try not to go too hard on the first hill. Rather find a bunch that you are comfortable with and not pushing in the red too much. As for drafting, you can draft if there is a big group. If you in a smaller group then you will have to work. Edited October 8, 2013 by Andyr249 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garfield2010 Posted October 8, 2013 Share Will people not get pissed off with me for stealing free draft? My thoughts are that good manners dictate that I take a turn breaking the wind as well, but my worry is that I will slow down the pack. No. In a group of 200 or whatever no one will care. Just don't sit on second wheel off the front and expect not to have to take a turn. Hang in the middle/back of the bunch and relax. Focus on keeping your lines rather and not piss the outoppies off who owns the sport of cycling. Then if you have strength later on and feel you can contribute go for it. Oh and keep your eyes open if it is wet and fast then **** is likely to happen at some point . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ecko_1 Posted October 8, 2013 Share I did the long Engen Race. I just feel bad to draft without contributing, but will feel bad if I take a turn to lead and then slow everyone down (will also be embarrasing). I want to approach the race cautiously and not go all out too soon. Want to make sure I have enough energy throughout. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b-rad Posted October 8, 2013 Share I did the long Engen Race. I just feel bad to draft without contributing, but will feel bad if I take a turn to lead and then slow everyone down (will also be embarrasing). I want to approach the race cautiously and not go all out too soon. Want to make sure I have enough energy throughout. Ride the first hill (Fox) at your pace and most likely a small group will form around you or you will join a smaller group. Try work with the group whilst it is smaller but then sit in as the group gets bigger and save energy to help out later on when some splitting happens during the race. If you do go to the front and are going too fast or too slow, believe me you will hear about it quickly:) Seems like you have been riding quite a lot (MUCH more than me!!)...so best of luck. Andyr249 and Jakkals. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andydude Posted October 8, 2013 Share I did the long Engen Race. I just feel bad to draft without contributing, but will feel bad if I take a turn to lead and then slow everyone down (will also be embarrasing). I want to approach the race cautiously and not go all out too soon. Want to make sure I have enough energy throughout. Draft... and then sprint past everyone for the win. It's not only not against the rules, it's actually a very respected racing tactic. Ask all the sprinters in the world. Andyr249 and Harryn 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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