MotoGP

[Steven Knoetze (sk27)]

yeah, Rossi seemed to be sizing him up into that first corner all the time. Brembo data was showing Rossi as the top dog as far as late brakers go, so I reckon it was part of his "pressure him till he cracks or make him think I can't take him on the first corner" tactic. 

 

Really, really bummed that Rossi's engine gave up. Makes 2 DNF's and now 47 points behind Jorge, which is a huge gap by anyone's reckoning. 

 

I think that this was Lorenzo's best race to date. Must hav been working on that side of things from a mental standpoint, as it seemed as if despite MM harrying him all the time, he just carried on racing his race, taking his lines and just being SUPER smooth.

 

Could also see after the race how hard he worked - his body language as he stopped on the circuit spoke volumes.

 

Really disappointed with the result, but that's what happens when Rossi goes out like that. Reckon he would have taken it in the end had the motor not ended like that. 

 

Very good race though. 

 

Lots of "if's" "would've" and "could've's" doing the interweb rounds following the race.

I suppose one could say that IF VR's bike didn't go bang he COULD'VE got past JL but also that maybe he COULDNT and WOULD'VE fallen or taken them both out trying.

I think based on the JL and MM fight at the end I also believe that JL COULD'VE held VR at bay or he COUDLD'VE straight up gotten back past him SHOULD he have been overtaken by VR. You also have to consider the dynamic HAD MM caught up and then battled with VR leaving JL to get away. So yes the race could've been different, it may have been an epic but I think the ending was great and made up for the loss of VR

Suppose we will never know.

VR did look like he was sizing JL up but it also looked like they were both at the limit so a lunge may have ended badly too.

I suppose we could say that IF Iannone got off the line better everyone WOULD'VE been racing for 2nd anyway. Fastest lap on the last lap, impressive!!

 

See a couple of forum trolls complaining about VR not getting off the track when his engine lunched itself. Smoke everywhere, possibly oil. recipe for disaster...........

 

I see MM is now talking championship, he does seem to be making that Honda dance to his tune now!!

Edited May 23, 2016 by Steven Knoetze (sk27)

[Long Wheel Base]

Got in from my rode just a tad late, but managed to tune in to get his post race interview. Sounds like it was a blinder BINDER of a last lap!

Fixed.

 

 

But the whole race was awesome. A lot of okes pushing the limit and crashing out. For majority of the race it literally looked like lap 1 with the whole group together. I think it was with 3 laps to go brad went slightly wide and went from 1st to 7th just like that. It was proper "125" racing.

Edited May 23, 2016 by Long Wheel Base

[Popit]

Brad Binder is THE MAN .

He has shown in the last 2 races how good his race craft is .

He knows exactly where to be in the last couple of laps to ensure he has a chance to win .... and then he wins .....SWEEEEEET !!

 

MotoGP was awesome . Agree with SK27 , lots of IF's and BUT's , but actually a great race .

JL and MM showing that they are there to win ....

VR46 was looking good until the Yam cried "ENOUGH"

29 and 25 caused their own problems off the start line , but 29 certainly could have run up front .

However he may have succumbed to the excitement of being able to win at Mugello , and tossed the Duke into the sand . So I think a good result for him .

 

Well done to Crashlow .... stayed on ...... ( Chop )

[Steven Knoetze (sk27)]

This is a direct quote from the Dave Emmett race review of Mugello, very pertinent:

 

"All of this talk of engines, overtaking, and disappointment overshadows a rather important point. For the first time this year, we are not talking about tires, and whether Michelin have done a good job or not.

The MotoGP race was run at a new record pace (1 second faster than the previous fastest race), and riders came up short of the pole and lap record by just a few hundredths. Of the crashes which happened during the race, none were related to tires."

 

The race overall time was 1sec faster than last years race and the lap record was just missed by a few hundredths.

Well done Michelin....

Edited May 23, 2016 by Steven Knoetze (sk27)

[Popit]

AND a new top speed record of 354km/h .......

[bertusras]

AND a new top speed record of 354km/h .......

 

Emmett's article states over 360 on the data. I guess the speed trap is marginally in front of the braking point.

[Pikey]

New Avatar? Sore loser?

New Avatar? Sore loser?

Absoulty bitter ....nothing changes always crack at the last hurdle ???????? Edited May 23, 2016 by Pikey

[sawystertrance]

Absoulty bitter ....nothing changes always crack at the last hurdle

Don't feel bad. Guess, just guess who I've supported for the past lifetime. If you want to talk about disappointing.

 

Back to the MotoGP. 

 

I was mightily impressed by Binder's TV interview just after the race in which he thanked his team and said he couldn't have done it without them. I was disappointed that he didn't acknowledge them last time around but this time he did and it shows maturity and the kind of appreciation needed to succeed in what is, after all, a team sport. The affection they have for him was evident after the race. Long may it continue..

 

Nice one Brad.

[Steven Knoetze (sk27)]

Don't feel bad. Guess, just guess who I've supported for the past lifetime. If you want to talk about disappointing.

 

Back to the MotoGP. 

 

I was mightily impressed by Binder's TV interview just after the race in which he thanked his team and said he couldn't have done it without them. I was disappointed that he didn't acknowledge them last time around but this time he did and it shows maturity and the kind of appreciation needed to succeed in what is, after all, a team sport. The affection they have for him was evident after the race. Long may it continue..

 

Nice one Brad.

 

He still has a long way to go, he will learn the PR game soon enough.

Looks good for the future, pity he gets no local recognition. Not much on the news apart from the odd one-liner in a newsfeed. No recognition from the Department of Sports, suppose he isn't BEE compliant.

[sawystertrance]

Ja I agree he  has to learn the PR game. I thought it a touch cocky to start talking about the Championship looking good so early in the season. This after his second win, but then again, he is 20! I think hos acknowledgement of his team this week shows that he is indeed learning.  

[mtbride]

Don't feel bad. Guess, just guess who I've supported for the past lifetime. If you want to talk about disappointing.

 

Back to the MotoGP. 

 

I was mightily impressed by Binder's TV interview just after the race in which he thanked his team and said he couldn't have done it without them. I was disappointed that he didn't acknowledge them last time around but this time he did and it shows maturity and the kind of appreciation needed to succeed in what is, after all, a team sport. The affection they have for him was evident after the race. Long may it continue..

 

Nice one Brad.

 

He was probably gently reminded to do that by his PR oke.

[bertusras]

Ja I agree he  has to learn the PR game. I thought it a touch cocky to start talking about the Championship looking good so early in the season. This after his second win, but then again, he is 20! I think hos acknowledgement of his team this week shows that he is indeed learning.  

 

Uh. Three wins, in a row, with a 49 point advantage. Yes, it's a moer of a long season to go and we saw what happened last year between Kent and Olivera, but the fact remains that Navarro still hasn't won a race, Fenati is way too inconsistent and there will always be non-title contenders in the top running. As long as Brad keeps his powder dry, picking up the maximum points available without making mistakes, he's in for a shot at the title. I don't want to put the blinkers on him, but our boy is doing us proud!

 

Also, he has always acknowledged his team. He used to be a punk in Redbull Rookies, always blaming something else, but he has really matured over the last season and a half and taken a lot of responsibility on himself.

[Duane_Bosch]

Uh. Three wins, in a row, with a 49 point advantage. Yes, it's a moer of a long season to go and we saw what happened last year between Kent and Olivera, but the fact remains that Navarro still hasn't won a race, Fenati is way too inconsistent and there will always be non-title contenders in the top running. As long as Brad keeps his powder dry, picking up the maximum points available without making mistakes, he's in for a shot at the title. I don't want to put the blinkers on him, but our boy is doing us proud!

 

Also, he has always acknowledged his team. He used to be a punk in Redbull Rookies, always blaming something else, but he has really matured over the last season and a half and taken a lot of responsibility on himself.

I used to call him Binner. Haha.

 

Agree with you. If he stays on the podium he should be in with a solid shout at the end. I'm really impressed by the way he's winning. Not only a one trick pony. He's able to check out early AND fight for the win.

[mtbride]

JL should thank HRC for making a bike that can't accelerate, that's the only reason he won on the week-end ... instead of making as if he won because he can battle now

 

So Hondas troubles, is it electronics or the fact that they turned around the crank rotation?

Edited May 25, 2016 by Kraggie

[bertusras]

JL should thank HRC for making a bike that can't accelerate, that's the only reason he won on the week-end ... instead of making as if he won because he can battle now

 

So Hondas troubles, is it electronics or the fact that they turned around the crank rotation?

 

It's both. I posted a link to an article about this issue some time back, but essentially what happened is that the old motor was way too powerful, it was always spinning the rear, and when it found gripped it just wanted to wheelie. They could tame it somewhat with the electronics. With the spec electronics they can't, so in an attempt to curb the insane wheelies (the bike is still spinning), they reversed the crank rotation. Reversing the crank rotation has robbed them of a couple of ponies, which means the bike doesn't drive when it actually stops spinning and wheelying. Essentially, they cocked it up. Again.

[Steven Knoetze (sk27)]

JL should thank HRC for making a bike that can't accelerate, that's the only reason he won on the week-end ... instead of making as if he won because he can battle now

 

So Hondas troubles, is it electronics or the fact that they turned around the crank rotation?

 

Some of the above I reckon, its because their test riders told them it was too aggressive and the #1 rider needed to prove he is better and so dismissed it offhand.

This all boils down to the factory rider testing being done at Sepang where the conditions masked the engines aggressiveness. The test riders tested at other tracks where the problem was evident.

Lets also not forget Honda's need for the bragging rights of having the bike with the most horsepower on the grid.

The spec electronics is also said to be very crude, traction and wheelie control not as fine tuneable as with the factory electronics the teams were using before.

 

MM fluffed the corner entry blocking JL, thus meaning he needed the acceleration he knows they lack. He lost the race for himself IMO.