fabes Posted September 25, 2013 Share I dont know if the confrontational approach worksIt is more a case of educationYou watch the tdf or epic and see the manne throwing their stuff away and think its okWatching the Tour of Britain the other day the commentator reflected on how the SKY team were putting their junk up their shirt to discard at the finishTry hiking...I end up with a plastic bag full of crap that people drop on the trails.Tissues,stompies,sweet rappers gel sachets you name itI am not sure what you want to educate people on here. Surely it must hit home to these "litter bugs" that all these wrappers, gu sachets and what not look absolutely *** on that beautiful route we cycled on Sunday. 13 year old kid throwing a paper down can be educated however there is no cure for an adult that finds it acceptable to throw his crap all over the trail ChUkKy 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wyatt Earp Posted September 25, 2013 Share I dont know if the confrontational approach works It's because of a lack of confrontation and straightforwardness that people just do as they please.They don't need to be educated, they need to be reminded of the education they received. fabes, ChUkKy, Wannabe and 6 others 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Bike Posted September 25, 2013 Share It's because of a lack of confrontation and straightforwardness that people just do as they please.They don't need to be educated, they need to be reminded of the education they received. unfortunately arrogance negates education Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ValeYellow Posted September 25, 2013 Share what a bunch of knobs, they certainly look like they have huge chips on their shoulders. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kranswurm Posted September 25, 2013 Share I am not sure what you want to educate people on here. Surely it must hit home to these "litter bugs" that all these wrappers, gu sachets and what not look absolutely *** on that beautiful route we cycled on Sunday. 13 year old kid throwing a paper down can be educated however there is no cure for an adult that finds it acceptable to throw his crap all over the trail It is not just in cyclingPeople throw their crap out car windows ,in the street,anywhere.Their is no culture of cleanliness in south africaTry throwing your chewing gum in the street in Thailand or Singapore and see what happens to you.You are finedWhen I back packed through Malawi I was struck by how clean it was .No one throws away anythingBotswana is like a rubbish dump.People just back their bakkie into the bush and throw out all their crap.Ignorance reigns Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fabes Posted September 25, 2013 Share what a bunch of knobs, they certainly look like they have huge chips on their shoulders.They actually ate them johannrissik, Cuppa Bru, Vetseun and 3 others 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kranswurm Posted September 25, 2013 Share It's because of a lack of confrontation and straightforwardness that people just do as they please.They don't need to be educated, they need to be reminded of the education they received.Correct there needs to be clear boundaries and consequences which all are clear onFine them fabes, Wyatt Earp and slowpoke 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fabes Posted September 25, 2013 Share It is not just in cycling Try throwing your chewing gum in the street in Thailand or Singapore and see what happens to you.It is not because they were educated, it is because laws are actually enforced in those countries ChUkKy and slowpoke 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fabes Posted September 25, 2013 Share Correct there needs to be clear boundaries and consequences which all are clear onFine themOr ban them slowpoke, eeeek, johannrissik and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TimW Posted September 25, 2013 Share There is a very simple reason why we all need to learn to pick up our (and other people's) litter: If you do not you will not have places to ride. At an event I help organise we have a farmer who has PROMISED we will not be allowed back on his land if any litter is left behind. It is a serious issue for landowners and should be taken seriously by riders. fabes, DIPSLICK, slowpoke and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kranswurm Posted September 25, 2013 Share It is not because they were educated, it is because laws are actually enforced in those countriesThey obey the laws...that is the differenceWe dont.We ride illegally,we ride where we are not allowed to rideSee the comments about bikers jumping tolls and bragging about it The list goes on and on.We do not obey the laws.That is ignorance and down to lack of education and ethics slowpoke 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andydude Posted September 25, 2013 Share It is not just in cyclingPeople throw their crap out car windows ,in the street,anywhere.Their is no culture of cleanliness in south africaTry throwing your chewing gum in the street in Thailand or Singapore and see what happens to you.You are finedWhen I back packed through Malawi I was struck by how clean it was .No one throws away anythingBotswana is like a rubbish dump.People just back their bakkie into the bush and throw out all their crap.Ignorance reigns Yeah warped morals we have... Thailand is clean but you can also pick up a real girl and she-boy around every corner for $5. Love you long time! DIPSLICK 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kranswurm Posted September 25, 2013 Share Or ban themWhy not try the fining firstIf everyone was banned on the hub for their first transgressions instead of warned you would not be here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vetseun Posted September 25, 2013 Share There is a very simple reason why we all need to learn to pick up our (and other people's) litter: If you do not you will not have places to ride. At an event I help organise we have a farmer who has PROMISED we will not be allowed back on his land if any litter is left behind. It is a serious issue for landowners and should be taken seriously by riders.And that is fully understandable. A farmer grants the use of his land, afterwards it is left littered with wrappers etc. Livestock can chow it and have problems, and it didnt look like that before the cyclists came.My mother always told me that you leave a place in the same, if not better condition when you leave. slowpoke, DIPSLICK and johannrissik 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fabes Posted September 25, 2013 Share Why not try the fining firstIf everyone was banned on the hub for their first transgressions instead of warned you would not be hereBecause people will speed up again after passing a permanent camera when driving cars. These litter bugs will pay the fine and continue littering. Get rid of all of them, the sport doesn't need them and I don't want to cycle with those knobs anyway Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M L Posted September 25, 2013 Share Long story but there where about 6 gu papers at the first waterpoint alone. Now if you have to use a gu nevermind litter it after only 15km then there is more wrong than just your education. johannrissik, slowpoke, Steven Knoetze (sk27) and 2 others 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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