Cyclists turned away

[garynicky]

Iv also heard that Remo's in umhlanga have a no cyclist policy.... Heard of a few people being turned away

[Guest Jeanepant]

Great first post! You're going to be real popular here.

 

I agree absolutely that the restaurant has the right to turn away anyone for any reason, but where does race come into it?

Chip on your shoulder much?

 

I've been a lurker on here long enough to understand the hub doesn't like contrarian views that challenge the hive mind but I can't base my opinion around what will be popular. As a restaurant owner I see regularly how entitled some folk feel when they're asked to abide by the rules or regulations of an establishment. If this particular restaurant doesn't want people there dressed and smelling like that then they should just accept it instead of acting as if it were their right. Good heavens, of all the things to be upset about in this day and age.

[Wyatt Earp]

I've been a lurker on here long enough to understand the hub doesn't like contrarian views that challenge the hive mind but I can't base my opinion around what will be popular. As a restaurant owner I see regularly how entitled some folk feel when they're asked to abide by the rules or regulations of an establishment. If this particular restaurant doesn't want people there dressed and smelling like that then they should just accept it instead of acting as if it were their right. Good heavens, of all the things to be upset about in this day and age.

 

Jeanpant or is that Denimbroek, if they don't want my money in my cycling gear, they won't get my money in my smart casual kit either.

 

Saying that, I can fully understand if they don't want muddy arses all over their chairs, at the recent Lowveld Quest riders would finish a stage and scoot straight for the food tent, the chairs after they left look very undesirable .

 

But now again, who the hell dresses smart for breakfast in a shopping centre, it's not an upmarket hotel or resort.

 

"Of all things to be upset about" you say.

I am almost certain the OP felt the need to complain not because they were turned away, but rather perhaps maybe to do with the manner in which it was done, and the embarrassment they had to face as a result of that.

[V12man]

I've been a lurker on here long enough to understand the hub doesn't like contrarian views that challenge the hive mind but I can't base my opinion around what will be popular. As a restaurant owner I see regularly how entitled some folk feel when they're asked to abide by the rules or regulations of an establishment. If this particular restaurant doesn't want people there dressed and smelling like that then they should just accept it instead of acting as if it were their right. Good heavens, of all the things to be upset about in this day and age.

 

Remind me again which restaurant you own? What EXACTLY do YOU do about smokers?

 

Thanks for telling me I smell.... tjop.

[Meentb]

 

 

As a restaurant owner I see regularly how entitled some folk feel when they're asked to abide by the rules or regulations of an establishment. If this particular restaurant doesn't want people there dressed and smelling like that then they should just accept it instead of acting as if it were their right.

 

You missing the plot here badly. They were turned away due to being dressed in cycling clothes. Never did they mention they were smelly. Ill take my dads whole construction team. Dress them MOER smart and take them too your place. Then youll know smelly.

 

But hey. You behind a pseudonym and not mentioning you restaurant. Scared perhaps

[Chro Mo]

I've been a lurker on here long enough to understand the hub doesn't like contrarian views that challenge the hive mind but I can't base my opinion around what will be popular. As a restaurant owner I see regularly how entitled some folk feel when they're asked to abide by the rules or regulations of an establishment. If this particular restaurant doesn't want people there dressed and smelling like that then they should just accept it instead of acting as if it were their right. Good heavens, of all the things to be upset about in this day and age.

Okay.......I would just like clarification as to how you come by the generalisation "based on this thread" that cyclists are a) privileged and b) white? This entire web-site and forum have shown this to be false.

 

You can back-pedal all you want about hive-minds and the like, but the fact that you would make a statement like that reflects very badly on you a) as a human, and b) as a restaurateur.

 

I agree, as a restaurateur myself, that one is entitled to enforce the right of admittance to through whichever criteria one may assign it - however bad the business decision may be - but I would not base any generalisation on race in any way shape or form.

 

The OP was merely stating an opinion, based on his/her own experience. He/she is entitled to accept or not accept any right of admission prescription. No rights were stated to be infringed at all. The OP was correct to question whether the restaurant was making a viable business decision.

 

You have jumped on the bandwagon, championing the right to defend against entitled, privileged white cyclists - all of which seem to mean the same thing in your "contrarian" based vocabulary.

[The Guy in Pink]

. As a restaurant owner I see regularly how entitled some folk feel when they're asked to abide by the rules or regulations of an establishment. If this particular restaurant doesn't want people there dressed and smelling like that then they should just accept it instead of acting as if it were their right.

 

In your first post you came across as a racist by making an issue of it, when responding to a post which dealt with business realities (Who knows what colour the OP and his family is?)

I doubt whether the OP's wife and daughter were dirty and smelly, so in this post you exposed yourself as a bigot by assuming things about people just from their choice of clothing.

Are you sure that you have made the correct career choice with the hospitality industry? It's an industry where people skills help tremendously, especially with the wealthy entitled folk.

[marko35s]

I've been a lurker on here long enough to understand the hub doesn't like contrarian views that challenge the hive mind but I can't base my opinion around what will be popular. As a restaurant owner I see regularly how entitled some folk feel when they're asked to abide by the rules or regulations of an establishment. If this particular restaurant doesn't want people there dressed and smelling like that then they should just accept it instead of acting as if it were their right. Good heavens, of all the things to be upset about in this day and age.

Hive mind? Lol just lol.

A hive mind would indicate an agreement over everything and if you have been a lurker for a while you may have noticed that this particular "hive mind" rarely passes up the opportunity to argue, disagree and fight over pretty much everything.

Oh and please piss off with your racism.

[flymango]

http://www.remos.co.za/STORES/MAXIMILLIANO.aspx#!/

 

Clearly says "Dress code: Smart casual. No vests or peak caps after 6pm".

 

So whether you're in cycling gear, or any other type of clothing which isn't "smart casual", chances are you'll be asked to leave because it's the standard they set for themselves and their patrons. And somebody posted earlier he was asked to remove his cap. So at least they're consistent and upholding a standard they believe in. As a cycling forum we shouldn't take it personally. Contrary to popular belief, just because I want to spend money somewhere doesn't entitle me to behave as I please. Many potential shoppers with plenty to spend have been thrown out of Harrod's in London before ...

[kosmonooit]

I don't like smelly cyclists either, anywhere, especially en-route when you are stuck being one on a single track trail. But not all cyclists are smelly, just the smelly very few and far between.

 

Wondering how this establishment will cope with baggies? or is it the breed that is banned?

 

ps in the hospitality/customer service business myself. Cyclists are most welcome in my shop, in whatever attire.

[Chro Mo]

I don't like smelly cyclists either, anywhere, especially en-route when you are stuck being one on a single track trail. But not all cyclists are smelly, just the smelly very few and far between.

 

Wondering how this establishment will cope with baggies? or is it the breed that is banned?

 

ps in the hospitality/customer service business myself. Cyclists are most welcome in my shop, in whatever attire.

I hear you!

Our group is about to embark on a major initiative to attract cyclists to our stores - especially the early morning group rides that pass us.

[Capricorn]

http://www.remos.co....ILLIANO.aspx#!/

 

Clearly says "Dress code: Smart casual. No vests or peak caps after 6pm".

 

So whether you're in cycling gear, or any other type of clothing which isn't "smart casual", chances are you'll be asked to leave because it's the standard they set for themselves and their patrons. And somebody posted earlier he was asked to remove his cap. So at least they're consistent and upholding a standard they believe in. As a cycling forum we shouldn't take it personally. Contrary to popular belief, just because I want to spend money somewhere doesn't entitle me to behave as I please. Many potential shoppers with plenty to spend have been thrown out of Harrod's in London before ...

 

finally logic prevails. well said guv'nor

[Stretch]

after I have been cycling I am full of mud grit or dust depending on the weather....smelly...and generally unappealing.... even to my wife...The last place i would be is in a coffee shop.

 

That said mid week rides in and around the hilton area in kzn usually start and stop at the hilton hotel and they are happy for you to have a coffee afterwards...not sure how accommodating they would be on the weekend though

[Ratty]

They should look at how Meerendal operates...they have totally embraced the cyclists and their coffee shop pumps in the morning!!! Don't they realize that mountain bikers are generally the type of client they want...someone who is prepared to spend money...I would think that MTB's would be an ideal target market...guess that's why they are so busy in the mornings..not!

 

They are a top establishment as well, looks of fancy dressed people eat there too.

 

Saw this morning that they have even put up a bicycle rack for the people who have cycled there.

 

Only problem, on a beautiful day like today is that is overrun with too many cyclists and you can't get a table. I remember about 2 years ago, it was very rare to see another person sitting at the restaurant.

[Witkop]

A rather interesting trend, when a restaurant or coffee shop is empty, they welcome almost anyone. I used to play a lot of coffeehouse chess in my youth. We deliberately chose coffee shops that were "in a bad space" because we knew that they would accept our custom. However, no sooner than we started setting up a regular Sunday evening group, than the pseudo intellectuals and faux academics would descend on the shop to "watch" us play. When this happened suddenly the shop was "hip" and "in" and we were now seen as a nuisance and "hogging" the tables. Shortly afterwards the managers would start refusing to allow us to play in the shop/restaurant.

 

ps chessplayers can make a coffee last for hours.

[andremtb1]

You have to remember that in wet season MTB ers will be walking in all sorts of mud and dirt, so does the restaurant owner be selective and only let clean non smelly cyclists in ( which will open up a whole new thread) or does he just say no cyclists!