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Well said D2s. ...what you did ...you did at the time to be competitive. ...it's still like that ...not just in cycling ...in everyday life ...business , work etc ...what bosses have to do to land contracts so that we can have a job...etc ...it's all around us ...that is the real world ...I have no problem with what you did ....I'm guilty of some sh*t I did when I had my business ..but had I played fair, I would have been eaten by my competitors...and this is life ...the playing field....it's never level..

 

no my friend, the real world is not all corrupt, screwed up and full of cheats.  there are lots of good people out there living a decent fair and honest life.

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no my friend, the real world is not all corrupt, screwed up and full of cheats. there are lots of good people out there living a decent fair and honest life.

Of course there will always be the exception. ..and that's good ...otherwise how would I know I'm bad .....????☺

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I will respect the doper who blows the whistle on the Doctors, administrators, dealers, officials that no about all the doping ****. I have no respect for the okes who blew the whistle on Lance, they only did it cos they were caught. None of them, Lance, Dope 2 Survive etc is willing to blow the whistle on the PED's support structures,

 

For the love of me, is Dr Ferrari the only other non-cyclist involved in doping? who are the others?

 

Dope 2 Survive, who are the others????????????????????????

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No chance of spilling the beans anonymously on a cycling forum then :ph34r:

All show.....testing is roughly about three years behind the dopers in technology......catching up, but not there yet.

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All show.....testing is roughly about three years behind the dopers in technology......catching up, but not there yet.

More funding will always be on the side of performance than prevention

Money wins

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More funding will always be on the side of performance than prevention

Money wins

......and some of the largest pharmaceutical companies are located in that region of the world.....

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Well said D2s. ...what you did ...you did at the time to be competitive. ...it's still like that ...not just in cycling ...in everyday life ...business , work etc ...what bosses have to do to land contracts so that we can have a job...etc ...it's all around us ...that is the real world ...I have no problem with what you did ....I'm guilty of some sh*t I did when I had my business ..but had I played fair, I would have been eaten by my competitors...and this is life ...the playing field....it's never level..

Integrity, or fair play, is never negotiable. Thus I have to disagree with you. In business and in every day life, sustainable results are only achieved through acting with integrity. I whish I could say the same for our sport . . .  

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Here is my (naïve) approach on what has been discussed:

 

I will continue training and racing clean. I will assume that each competitor I race against do the same, even when I know this is not true.

 

However, I WILL NOT USE THE ACTIONS OF DOPERS AS AN EXCUSE TO DOPE!

 

I hope that in time my family and friends will respect me for making the honourable choice, even if it means I never make the podium.

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Where did you go dope2survive? You got messy and then you went quiet. Jope you were not taken out by the CIA? Or did all the dopers tie you ip and stuff socks in your mouth?

 

Thanks for sharing your experience. I have read your posts a couple of times. Were you even pro? This thread was about doping among amateurs? Just wondering.

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Where did you go dope2survive? You got messy and then you went quiet. Jope you were not taken out by the CIA? Or did all the dopers tie you ip and stuff socks in your mouth?

 

Thanks for sharing your experience. I have read your posts a couple of times. Were you even pro? This thread was about doping among amateurs? Just wondering.

His fake man!!!!!

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