javadude Posted December 8, 2014 Posted December 8, 2014 the Inner Ring @inrng · 10m10 minutes ago Padova case looks bad for many, not just Astana. Gazzetta piece says 90 riders named in 500 page dossier, including "some unexpected names"NO! I'm shocked. I think its BS, because cyclists have said they have changed, and its possible you know, for people to change, we should just give them a chance. Why, oh why wont anyone give cyclists a chance.
canfan Posted December 9, 2014 Posted December 9, 2014 Surely just a matter of time before Sky is involved as well. I find it impossible to believe all the top teams dope and they don't yet they can compete and win? I think to believe that is a touch silly. There wasn't even that much doping going on at cobras rugby, haha.Well Sky hasn't won anything in over a year. Maybe they are still on old meds.
Nibali Posted December 9, 2014 Posted December 9, 2014 Snip-snipGazzetta does not name the Astana members who met with Ferrari in November 2013, but the newspaper stresses that Tour de France winner Vincenzo Nibali was not among them. In the 500-page report compiled by the Padova inquiry, Gazzetta says, there “isn’t a line, nothing, that talks of a relationship between Nibali and Ferrari. There was no contact between the rider and the doctor.” I really hope that this is true!
ScottCM Posted December 9, 2014 Posted December 9, 2014 NO! I'm shocked. I think its BS, because cyclists have said they have changed, and its possible you know, for people to change, we should just give them a chance. Why, oh why wont anyone give cyclists a chance. Call me naive, but i so badly want to believe that our pro pelaton is clean. More for the sake of our children than for me.
jcza Posted December 9, 2014 Posted December 9, 2014 I really hope that this is true! Apparently it is true but instead Ferrari met with Slongo, Nibalis coach. PS: Slongo was also Sagans coach for 2/3 years.
'Dale Posted December 9, 2014 Posted December 9, 2014 Nibs will be worried, I reckonHe has little recourse if Astana folds. Most teams' budgets are spent and won't afford h at this late stage or the big money teams like Sky already have their GC leaders set like 'Berto (Tinkoff Saxo) and (Froome) Sky.
Andrew Steer Posted December 9, 2014 Posted December 9, 2014 Apparently it is true but instead Ferrari met with Slongo, Nibalis coach. PS: Slongo was also Sagans coach for 2/3 years. Don't worry, nothing will happen... that's way too many golden boys already for them to do some proper digging
jcza Posted December 9, 2014 Posted December 9, 2014 Decision on Astana tomorrow. Here is a look at the last 8 years - http://www.cyclingnews.com/features/astana-timeline-eight-years-of-shadows
Frosty Posted December 9, 2014 Posted December 9, 2014 Nibs will be worried, I reckonHe has little recourse if Astana folds. Most teams' budgets are spent and won't afford h at this late stage or the big money teams like Sky already have their GC leaders set like 'Berto (Tinkoff Saxo) and (Froome) Sky.If MTN-Qhubeka are preparing now for 2017, then I'm sure most teams are doing the same - they need to collect sufficient points to ensure they're in with a chance of being in the top half of the team rankings to be guaranteed a ride on the new World Tour. It's a bit "unsure" how it works precisely, but I'm sure teams don't want to take chances and end up losing out. Also, 2017 there is a limit on the number of riders per team - just not sure if that limit kicks in before 2017.
ScottCM Posted December 9, 2014 Posted December 9, 2014 Decision on Astana tomorrow. Here is a look at the last 8 years - http://www.cyclingnews.com/features/astana-timeline-eight-years-of-shadows Wow, the list is quite damning and the fact that Vino says one thing and does another can't be helpful either. If Cookson does kick them off, then i think we can honestly say that someone is truly trying to clean the pro pelaton up once and for all. I hope it happens
SwissVan Posted December 9, 2014 Posted December 9, 2014 Dr Ferrari's comments on Astana allegation posted his web site yesterday Interesting last sentence considering his knowledge of these sort of things...Teide is a well used mountain climb on Tenerife Island.....quick google which teams go there ASTANA CaseBy: Michele FerrariPublished: 8 Dec 2014I feel obliged, albeit very reluctantly, to once again deny the latest MEDIA BULLSH*T with regards to my presence ("during the night", or even in broad daylight, if you prefer) at the Astana Team Training Camp in Montecatini (I've been in that town, if I remember correctly, in 1994 to taste the famous waffles) last year in November.The bombshell of ''the dark shadow of Ferrari" is absolutely FALSE and whoever has published it will respond about it in the appropriate courts: I hope that the Kazakh team will ask adequate compensation for the damages.The article in Gazzetta dello Sport, among other extraordinarily confusing statements, claims that I am living between Lugano and Ferrara: I always resided in Ferrara, for 26 years at the same address, and I never even stopped in Lugano, nor have a study or home in that location.Up to a few years ago I coached some of the Astana athletes, including Vinokurov: it has never been a secret, we never hid anything, we attended training venues where there were many other athletes, all in broad daylight.Curiously Teide or St. Moritz, back then "suspicious" locations as defined by the very UCI, have now been "cleared" and are more popular than ever with cyclists and teams above any suspicion... http://53x12.com/do/show?page=indepth.view&id=150
Wez-O Posted December 10, 2014 Posted December 10, 2014 B4eeM0QIAAAIEqE.pngNearly every rider in that list is Eastern European or Italian... Well no surprises there!
NotSoBigBen Posted December 10, 2014 Author Posted December 10, 2014 @Laura_Weislo: UCI confirms an announcement *will* be issued on Astana's licence today. @sporza_koers
jcza Posted December 10, 2014 Posted December 10, 2014 Apparently decision postponed. Nothing official yet, just rumors.
Recommended Posts
Archived
This topic is now archived and is closed to further replies.