DJR Posted December 30, 2014 Share Sounds worse heyDunno when I've ever heard of verbal exchanges while out training other than with motorists:-/That attitude of instant aggression whenever the guilty party is spoken to, is just the same everywhere, road, mountain, life. Sadly! Just think of the reaction you are likely to get if you point out to someone that he skipped a red traffic light in kamikaze fashion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheV Posted December 30, 2014 Share yoh... this thread is heating up man.... my issue is with chicks driving around smoking cigarettes with their kids not wearing safety belts & bouncing around in the car... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Fastbastard Mayhem Posted December 30, 2014 Share yoh... this thread is heating up man.... my issue is with chicks driving around smoking cigarettes with their kids not wearing safety belts & bouncing around in the car...Gives me the grille as well... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Odinson Posted December 30, 2014 Share Sometimes I just wonder... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WpYeekQkAdc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Omega Man Posted December 30, 2014 Share Sometimes I just wonder... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WpYeekQkAdcHow about this one? It's also my favorite song right now. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0K67veEPOYM Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the nerd Posted December 30, 2014 Share Dude, get your facts straight: We have permission to build in the Spruit. If you have such a big issue with " an illegal trail in a servitude ", why come all the way from Alberton to go ride it? I doubt you have even done the DH sections at Tokai or any other place for that matter.... I don't want to get into this again but you brought me into it. I haven't done downhill sections anywhere as that isn't the kind of riding I do, i have a rigid SS so not really made for it. Never have i professed to doing it either. Secondly, i have ridden the spruit maybe a handful of times if that. I appreciate the work done there as i said in the thread about it, BUT as you and your crew of "spruit rats" are so sensitive about anything mentioned about "your" spruit nothing can be ever said about it. The whole issue in the other thread was about someone cutting straight over a corner, correct? I said its on a public path in a park how can you enforce complete novices and the general public from abiding by "your" rules. NOW onto this thread. Cpt had an incident on a 1.) MARKED TRAIL with 2.) PAID ACCESS This is nothing like "your" spruit. I am now done with this argument. I will not be drawn into an argument with you and/or any of your crew of merry men and women. I have no issue with you or any of your crew so think this it about this subject. P.S i would love to go to the cape and ride their awesome trails! Maybe hire a DH rig and give it a go... maybe i'll like it and come build some jumps with you guys on "your" spruit... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danger Dassie Posted December 30, 2014 Share Cappies you were just the moer in because the toppie tjooned you fat, ne? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Capricorn Posted December 30, 2014 Share lulz DD.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mada3400 Posted December 30, 2014 Share just btw... top strava'd time down DH2 is 12 seconds... devon katzen can get down dh2 faster than i can get into a lollipop... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoLefty!! Posted December 30, 2014 Share ARGH jirre vok man, everyone needs to take a chillpilland go ride a road bike for some perspective Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the nerd Posted December 30, 2014 Share ARGH jirre vok man, everyone needs to take a chillpilland go ride a road bike for some perspective Agreed...!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoLefty!! Posted December 30, 2014 Share yoh... this thread is heating up man.... my issue is with chicks driving around smoking cigarettes with their kids not wearing safety belts & bouncing around in the car...If these kids are smoking ciggies with mommy surely they old enough and dumb enough to decide not to wear seat belts. see how important punctuation is... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoLefty!! Posted December 30, 2014 Share You were riding UP the trail known as DH2 at about 4h15 / 4h30 this afternoon, on your Bianchi Methanol (kick-ass bike, btw) and myself and Marko35s confronted you and informed you that the trail in question was categorised as a mono-directional trail, and as such it was against the rules of the trail system (and by extension TMNP) to ride up said trails. Despite at various points trying to explain that it was both dangerous and against the rules to be riding up a Downhill Only trail, you continued to raise your voice and accuse us of being "gods of the mountain" and "downhillers" and accuse us of creating an "us and them" environment whereby only downhillers needs are seen to. Unfortunately, your instant reaction upon being confronted was one of righteous indignation, arrogance, entitlement and shock at being told that you cannot ride up a trail designated as Downhill only. Your instant attitude was one of aggression, repeatedly telling us that you were "not afraid of us", "don't care how big we are", "do this all the time" and "just want us to all work together" Despite your protestations and attempts at justification (which were numerous) the fact remains that you were riding up a trail that people descend without the expectation of having someone in their way, coming in the opposite direction. The average speed of the majority of riders that come down there does hit 50 plus KPH (the top rider does that entire trail in just 20 seconds) and if you were to encounter someone coming down said trail, there is no way in hell you would hear and / or see them in time in order to react and pull out the trail (despite how experienced you say you are) Now, I know you took none of what Mark & I said to heart, as your opinion of yourself was entirely too inflated in order to accept that you were doing something wrong and were at fault. Despite that, what you are is a typical case study in why this country is going to the dogs. A blatant disregard for the rules of the trail that you (may not, come to think of it) pay to ride, as well as an increasing level of self entitlement which causes you to think that you can do anything without being confronted, as long as you have the louder voice and can try to justify your actions to a level that you think that your actions are okay. The excuses which we were given were, amongst others: I always do itIt's the best trail to test your ascending technical skillsYou're experienced, and can move out the way in time for those coming downYou ride without music, so can hear people comingIt's god's country, and we should all be able to enjoy itI (as in me) am a downhiller, so I'm only looking out for Downhillers (I'm not a downhiller, btw - I just ride)Who makes up the rules? I didn't sign up for them (you did, actually, when you paid for your annual pass - which I'm assuming you have, btw)It's quietI paid to ride hereYou're 57 and you don't care what the rules are (followed by "I just want us all to get along")You ride where you want to...We're doing more damage by pushing our bikes up the trails (we weren't, btw - we pushed up the jeep track as it's much easier. We push up NEXT to the trail when we go to the top of a downhill section) Etc etc. See, the thing is (whatever your name is) - what we tried to say (repeatedly, and every time we said it your voice just got louder and you interrupted us more often) is that you can NOT ride up a trail designated as Downhill Only. End of story. Directionality is one of the few things that maintains order in trail systems, and is shown on the Tokai MTB website, the entry board to the park (designated as highly technical downhill trails) and in signposts on the mountain itself. In your own words, you've previously come up against folks like us who have told you that what you are doing is wrong. Despite that, you continued to do it. Ignorance is not a justification, as by your own words you have been riding there for more than 4 years. The reason you cannot ride up a downhill only trail is that it is dangerous. Not from a technical perspective, but for one single reason. Riders do not expect you to be coming in the opposite direction. As such, they are not looking out for riders ascending, and when they come down at 30 / 40 / 50 kph they will have to take drastic avoiding action and by all likelihood end up injuring not only themselves, but also you in the process. It's the same reason that driving the wrong way down a 1-way street is in no way justifiable. I do hope this gets to you, and that you calm your horses (and sense of entitlement - the force is strong on that one) However - I do regret my profanity - at the time, that was the only way that I could get you to shut up and let me speak, besides just talking louder than you. Whatever your name is, know this. You are not only endangering other riders, you are endangering the access to the park itself. If we (as mountain bikers) cannot adhere to the rules of the park, our attempts to better our relationship with the park and lobby for additional trail (yes, the committee is lobbying for a dedicated climbing trail with suitable technicality, linking up all the trails, but you didn't let us get to that, did you) and all the work over the past year is for naught. But, at the end. I hope you do not continue to ride up the trails designated as down only. If only to prevent somebody from ploughing into you (on bike or fist) in the very near future... I'm not buying until I hear Dick's side of the story Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Fastbastard Mayhem Posted December 30, 2014 Share I'm not buying until I hear Dick's side of the storyLol. Trust me, it wasn't Morkel. If it was I would have punched him for being so stupid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Fastbastard Mayhem Posted December 30, 2014 Share Cappies you were just the moer in because the toppie tjooned you fat, ne? doc.jpgLol. Yeah, cos that *really* gets me going. Only person at fault there is me. My face. My piehole. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Fastbastard Mayhem Posted December 30, 2014 Share just btw... top strava'd time down DH2 is 12 seconds... devon katzen can get down dh2 faster than i can get into a lollipop...Yeah. And you know the scary thing? That oke makes NO SOUND. AT ALL. It's strangely entrancing watching him ride. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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