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special discount for hubbers?  :whistling:

Hi Shaper

We are currently discussing pricing and we will have some answers early next week. I think it will be a great idea to give Hubbers a little introductory offer.

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I would buy a Ti bike for the same reason I wear a Ti wedding ring. Its something timeless, durable, strong, warm and beautiful. Its a bike for life. There is something fantastic about a material that doesn't corrode, can take a few knocks and get back up again and looks ice cold cool. Blue steel has nothing on Ti, Carbon is the junk food of bikes - throwaway culture, aluminum is just plain utilitarian and boring. 

 

I have finally decided what I am going to spend a nice little  bonus which is coming my way. Sure its a bit indulgent, a bit lavish, a bit excessive, but life is short, whats wrong with riding a dream bike? 

 

This x 1000

 

I took that opportunity when two bikes were stolen out my garage. Decided that the insurance payout should go towards a bike I would ride forever. Enter the Pipedream Skookum. Classic round tubes, Paragon sliding dropouts, raw titanium finish, rated for 140mm fork, threaded BB. Every time I ride it, it puts a smile on my face.

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The welds are not up to the same standards as Moots but then very little is! The frames are still very good looking and should last a life time. I've always coveted a Ti frame (I have an alu HT and a chromoly roadbike) and so would definitely be interested in local pricing - probably well over 10K but then again you get what you pay for.  

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The welds are not up to the same standards as Moots but then very little is! The frames are still very good looking and should last a life time. I've always coveted a Ti frame (I have an alu HT and a chromoly roadbike) and so would definitely be interested in local pricing - probably well over 10K but then again you get what you pay for.  

 

Looking at the European sourced, butted Ti tubing, welded by European artisans, I can't see you getting much change from R25k for a frame.

 

And you know what? It would probably be worth it.....

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A Ti bike is not expensive if you keep it for a while as it will outlast carbon.

 

I got sick of getting scratches on my carbon frames so went Ti, I have a Lynskey Helix OS and it will last me 15-20 years. In my opinion it's better looking than any carbon frame out there.

 

It was a lot cheaper than my last carbon frame too.

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Here are some up close photos of our weldings for your viewing pleasure.... Pictured below are our 290 and Gravel frames

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I have bought every bike I did research on; liked; and test rode.... PLEASE don't offer a test ride, otherwise the kids are going to be mowing lawns to pay for school fees. Like the look of the 29r. It could easily slot in between my steel HT & carbon DS, for a very long time. Baum is the holy grail, (looks-wise imo, as I haven't touched one - thankfully). Good luck with your venture.

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I had a Bianchi S9 Matta for about five years. I sold it in 2010 as I did not have a use for it anymore after I stopped road cycling. It gave an extremely smooth ride. Of all the frames I ever owned, it is the one I miss the most.

Magnus Backstedt won the 2004 Paris Roubaix on a Bianchi S9 Matta.

I own a Colnago Oval Master, a Bianchi S9 Matta and a custom De Rosa Titanio, and although I love all of them, the Bianchi is in a different league. I will never sell it.

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I must say, that i am quite excited about you guys doing custom jobs.  :w00t:

Is this a option for SA, or is the "logistic" to much?

"Skyde Intros Custom Titanium Front Triangles for Any Full Suspension Mountain Bike"

http://www.bikerumor.com/?s=Skyde+Intros+Custom+Titanium+Front+Triangles+for+Any+Full+Suspension+Mountain+Bike

 

These may brings new life, to some full suspension bikes with broken frames, and a chance to change the head angle just that 1 or 2 degree, that felt missing a bit before?

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I do not see the "expensive" in titanium framed bikes.

Say for instance a mtb frame costs you R20k headset included.

http://www.chainreactioncycles.com/za/en/lynskey-ridgeline-29-vf-ti-hardtail-frame-2014/rp-prod115103

Fork R5.5k

https://www.bikehub.co.za/classifieds/124952-fox-32-float-29-ctd-evolution-series-fork/

Or this :  http://www.cwcycles.co.za/product/rockshox-reba-rl-29er-sa100-tp-2915

XT groupset R6.25k

https://www.bikehub.co.za/classifieds/124460-new-xt-3x10-groupset-r6250/

Wheels R5k

http://www.evobikes.co.za/wheels/wheelsets-mtb/novatec-frm-custom-build-29er-wheelset.html

Tires R900

http://www.cwcycles.co.za/product/maxxis-ardent-race-29er-tr-ready-29x22

Seatpost R500

https://www.bikehub.co.za/classifieds/117115-nukeproof-warhead-layback-seatpost/

Stem and Bar R500

https://www.bikehub.co.za/classifieds/104914-rapide-rize-r-controlpack/

Pedals R 400

https://www.bikehub.co.za/classifieds/101798-evobikes-shimano-520-pedals/

Saddle R 600

https://www.bikehub.co.za/classifieds/51370-evobikes-selle-italia-x0-flow/

 

Works out to R40k-ish for a hardtail bike you can ride for many years. Yes, it may be a bit 'old school' but it will not become 'outdated' like a 2012 model carbon bike. 

 

Or you could buy this for your R40k:

http://www.cwcycles.co.za/product/gt-zaskar-carbon-9r-pro-2014

That is if you are a racer of note. Most of us just ride.

Elke brommer op sy eie drawl.

In 2014 I bought a NEW Lynskey Ridgeline frame for R12.5k locally.

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I own a Colnago Oval Master, a Bianchi S9 Matta and a custom De Rosa Titanio, and although I love all of them, the Bianchi is in a different league. I will never sell it.

Would you be so kind as to post pictures on in the Retro Bike thread? Personally I would like to see all three! 

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Ti is very nice (light like aluminium, durable and compliant like steel). The expense may be relative if you think about the possible lifetime of the frame (especially if its well built).

 

Lots of cyclists in SA buy off-the-shelf bikes (from Cycle Lab or the Specialized stores), some of these bikes are extremely expensive. I believe a winning formula will be in customization and quick delivery which will not break the bank completely.

 

Good luck for the venture.

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I've got one of the titanium Victorias, which I hear was a South African branding exercise with frames sourced from Italy, from the guys who did the Colnago Ti bikes. I've seen another 4 in Cape Town.

 

Strong? One of those bikes had a slightly bent rear because the dork owner drove his 4X4 over it several times to get an insurance claim. I think it took something like 5 tons of pressure for engineers to get it straight again. 

 

Cost? I bought it second-hand for R9000, which came with full Campy Chorus 11-speed. 

 

Ride? The saddle lets me down, but otherwise she's tight and direct. Definitely a thoroughbred - not twitchy, but gets down to business, rides on rails (the Colnago inheritance, maybe?). My other bikes are steel - a Colnago Superissimo which is like a Grand Tourer, as comfy as riding your favourite armchair, and my Le Turbos which can be very twitchy, especially on downhills. But the Ti Victoria, you know you can nail it hard. Thank God I've never ridden ali or carbon. 

 

It gets noticed. I was battling through a huge mess on Boyes Drive about three Argus ago, when someone in the melee shouted out, "Is that Titanium?". So the look is definitely distinctive, that beautiful smokey grey shine. And yeah, the welds just give me a lump in the throat and tears in my eyes.

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The welds are not up to the same standards as Moots but then very little is! 

 

Wow, you say that with such authority you almost sound convincing. Its impossible to look at a picture of a weld on the internet and speak about its quality.

 

Besides, the Moots welder left Moots and started his own company, so you can't say that a brand name equates to a good weld. It all depends on that nameless, faceless welder on the day. 

 

The original Moots welder is Kent Eriksen. http://kenteriksen.com/

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