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Swen is a supplier of services in the Republic, falling within the ordinary scope of his business, and the OP is a Consumer contemplated in the act. That brings the CPA into applicability. Section 64 deals specifically with prepaid services. In a nutshell , that section stipulates that the money is still the property of the OP until Sven is entitled to make a charge against it, which he may do monthly. The kicker is that he has to be providing the service, otherwise he has to refund the money. (Disclaimer this is a very brief summary / interpretation of quite a lengthy section)

 

The OP has remedies both under the CPA, as well the Common Law.

 

It would actually be interesting to see what, if anything, would come of a complaint to the NCC. Last I heard they were so snowed under that they were totally sterilized - I don't know if they since have their house in order,but I would not put money on it

Thanks. I wonder though if Swen thought about the potential consequences when he "asked" the OP to shut down this thread. Apart from the hurt to his business brand surely the aggressiveness of the emails (as alleged by the OP) would have an influence on the ruling given by NCC/Local High Court?

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I am trying to understand how you part with 1000ZAR per month for a training program that gets emailed to you?

 

Can I email you a training program? My account number is 62128.... :whistling:

 

I am becoming a "coach" that's for sure.

The instant my former coach sent me a copy and paste programme with someone else's name in it, I pulled the pin (and felt like an idiot...I know how to ride a bike and I don't need to pay someone to tell me how awesome I'm doing).

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I still reckon the OP would have got a better response by closing/hiding the thread and using that as leverage, but after a brief conversation about this thread with someone in the same boat (allegedly... ) , I will say that I am absolutely certain the OP's version is accurate.

 

So I am sorry - I was wrong to call for restraint. (see, Mr UCI Accredited Trainer Guy, an apology is easy? )

Another victim?

The same boat captained by Hr Lauer?

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Another victim?The same boat captained by Hr Lauer?

Yup, see above. I was calling for restraint when it was just Marc trying to best get his cash back, but then my friend confirmed it too. And when I read the Charmer was backing people up on single track during W2W...

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More smoke means higher chance there's a fire. So if i understand that initial response of his, he held the OPs refund to ransom by demanding OPs post be removed as a precondition to a refund. This is at the risk of major reputation damage if the OP does not acquiesce. Essentially, he is saying his reputation can be bought for 600 euros. 

Cheap.

 

Now more similar tales of woe are emanating from the cycling community. Starting to reek of 'Swen D lauer' (afrikaans speakers might getit)

This boat has now sailed...and agree, can't believe his name is worth 600 euros...cheap cheap hey. 

 

Love the "woord speletjies" btw...

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Yip.

The tribe has spoken.

The coach hasn't.

The advance payment is poof!

Condolences, Marc'.

 

Let's shut this thang down. 

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This boat has now sailed...and agree, can't believe his name is worth 600 euros...cheap cheap hey. 

 

Love the "woord speletjies" btw...

But it is 600 euros by X number of victims!!  So could be a considerable amount of moola... and it why he seems to be enjoying life at present overseas.

 

I guess he thinks trashing his name is worth more and 600 euros per victim is what he feels he can get away with out raising alarm and what many may just write off...

 

Of course until it has now come to the attention of the hub and hopefully social media... perhaps that is why he insisted the thread be closed first before offering to pay back the money

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But it is 600 euros by X number of victims!!  So could be a considerable amount of moola... and it why he seems to be enjoying life at present overseas.

 

I guess he thinks trashing his name is worth more and 600 euros per victim is what he feels he can get away with out raising alarm and what many may just write off...

 

Of course until it has now come to the attention of the hub and hopefully social media... perhaps that is why he insisted the thread be closed first before offering to pay back the money

sure, maybe he plans to never return and face the music or maybe even play the same con somewhere else, all speculation though. 

 

Wonder if w2w know about this, he was mos affiliated as their go to man...I wouldn't anyone like this near my brand.

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sure, maybe he plans to never return and face the music or maybe even play the same con somewhere else, all speculation though. 

 

Wonder if w2w know about this, he was mos affiliated as their go to man...I wouldn't anyone like this near my brand.

 

W2W, FNB and UCI and and and...should hear about this

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W2W, FNB and UCI and and and...should hear about this

im sure they have/will, he is in Europe he is already aware(obviously) but this world has become very small now webs and all, im sure a friend of a friends mothers auntys cousin will get the "news" along in time 

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its right, just type swen liar instead

If you on type 'svengali' you get 'one who uses mesmerism, often for sinister purposes'... Probably to get innocent mountain bikes to part with hard earned cash

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If they ban people from riding the epic etc etc that has been found guilty of using illegal substances. . . Shouldn't they ban people that shhnaaai people out of their money in the cycling industry?

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