Cyclists with a "Running" Problem

[Hacc]

I missed it by 2km... I'm coming for you big guns   

Also hoping for a better week. This thing called work is seriously messing with my training time.

[Barry Stuart]

I need your guys' help. Did a duathlon today and quite liked it. A lot.

 

BUT.....The 2km running stretch that I had to do had me begging for mercy... Luckily I had a partner that ran the other 6km(I know I know, that's very little ito running)

 

Anyway... The next event is 16 June. I suspect the entire run will be about 10km's combined.

 

How do I go about getting running fit?

 

Were you running the 2km after riding? Dude, I did one of those DualX races a year or two back and, despite being running fit, that 3km run after the ride felt like 20. Every time I looked at my watch it said I had only done another 200m. It felt like I was running in lead boots so don't stress about how it felt. As someone else said, Parkrun is a great way to get a regular 5km time trial in. Pick one that isn't flat, Alberts Farm for example, and pair it with a couple of slooooow midweek runs.

[Kalahari Vegmot]

Were you running the 2km after riding? Dude, I did one of those DualX races a year or two back and, despite being running fit, that 3km run after the ride felt like 20. Every time I looked at my watch it said I had only done another 200m. It felt like I was running in lead boots so don't stress about how it felt. As someone else said, Parkrun is a great way to get a regular 5km time trial in. Pick one that isn't flat, Alberts Farm for example, and pair it with a couple of slooooow midweek runs.

Jip...

[Paddaman]

Were you running the 2km after riding? Dude, I did one of those DualX races a year or two back and, despite being running fit, that 3km run after the ride felt like 20. Every time I looked at my watch it said I had only done another 200m. It felt like I was running in lead boots so don't stress about how it felt. As someone else said, Parkrun is a great way to get a regular 5km time trial in. Pick one that isn't flat, Alberts Farm for example, and pair it with a couple of slooooow midweek runs.

Duathlon is actually, run, cycle, crawl.......

If you do not feel like you have lead boots on and look like a frog in a liquidizer on the last run, then you did not push hard enough on the bike.

 

However, a quick hit, on the last km before the transition, ride lighter gears and spin the legs a bit.  Also on the first 500 meters of the crawl, use a short pace and increased cadence to get the legs going.

 

Lastly, remember the transition is also a timed part of the race, proper transition can score you a place or two and move you closer to a "rabbit" to chase to the finish.....

[Barry Stuart]

Duathlon is actually, run, cycle, crawl.......

If you do not feel like you have lead boots on and look like a frog in a liquidizer on the last run, then you did not push hard enough on the bike.

 

However, a quick hit, on the last km before the transition, ride lighter gears and spin the legs a bit.  Also on the first 500 meters of the crawl, use a short pace and increased cadence to get the legs going.

 

Lastly, remember the transition is also a timed part of the race, proper transition can score you a place or two and move you closer to a "rabbit" to chase to the finish.....

 

Agreed about the crawling bit. It was my first duathlon and I decided I'd be smart and do the bike section in my trail shoes since I ride with flats anyway. I cramped three times on the ride. And that's a handy tip about spinning the legs out. When I think back I was pushing hard on the last 2km stretch, mostly because I wanted to get the ride/crampfest over with.

[Paddaman]

Agreed about the crawling bit. It was my first duathlon and I decided I'd be smart and do the bike section in my trail shoes since I ride with flats anyway. I cramped three times on the ride. And that's a handy tip about spinning the legs out. When I think back I was pushing hard on the last 2km stretch, mostly because I wanted to get the ride/crampfest over with.

First rule of duathlon:  There is no such thing as a fun duathlon.

Second rule of duathlon:  Short duathlons are sprint duathlons (go far or go fast)

Third rule of duathlon:  transition matters.

 

 

First principle:  Equipment counts.

[Gringo]

What are the remedies for stomach issues on a run? The majority of my runs including marathons and an ultra in April are no problem with no toilet/bush stop required, but there is the odd run where the stomach is not too happy. The happiness is generally restored though after darting off into the bushes or heading to the closest loo but it's a frustrating situation, and such a waste of time.

I'm trying to pinpoint the cause by not eating before a run, or trying plain foods, or trying oats soaked in milk and yoghurt overnight, etc etc but I haven't narrowed it down. At one stage I thought it was from drinking 32Gi but it can't be as I only have this on long runs. Seems like every now and then the movement of running just gets the guts working?

Anyone else experienced this and have a remedy?

 

I find that drinking coffee before I run makes my stomach not too lekker (almost wakes the digestive system up). It is critical that you eat before you run if you running more than 10km and especially with Marathons/Ultras where you need the fuel. I would maybe try avoiding foods that agitate you gut such as grains, dairy, caffeine etc. What works well for me is 2 x hot cross buns with peanut butter on. Then just before race time, I have a banana and the usual race fuels such as dates, nuts etc.

[ycowley]

I need your guys' help. Did a duathlon today and quite liked it. A lot.

 

BUT.....The 2km running stretch that I had to do had me begging for mercy... Luckily I had a partner that ran the other 6km(I know I know, that's very little ito running)

 

Anyway... The next event is 16 June. I suspect the entire run will be about 10km's combined.

 

How do I go about getting running fit?

I think you have enough advise re the last run. My experience is the last run is very hard. Also had the experience that feels like you have run 2km and it is actually only 200m.

 

Off that topic though - I am looking for a duathlon to do here in Gauteng (sprint one). Know of any here please?

[Stretch]

Ha ha... When I had a little niggle I was doing some swimming cross training. Ran 5km to the pool.. Swam 1200m and then ran 5km back.... The run back was torturous

[shaper]

We triathletes do runs of the bike for fun 

[Hacc]

I think you have enough advise re the last run. My experience is the last run is very hard. Also had the experience that feels like you have run 2km and it is actually only 200m.

 

Off that topic though - I am looking for a duathlon to do here in Gauteng (sprint one). Know of any here please?

I know there is a RedHub series of triathlons and duathlons in the Cradle. There are 2 events still for this year. I can't seem to find the dates for the 2 events.

 

https://www.cradlemoon.co.za/single-post/2017/11/28/RedHub-Triathlon-Duathlon-2018-Series

[ScottCM]

We triathletes do runs of the bike for fun 

 

Reminds me of pic a saw......

 

[Hacc]

I find that drinking coffee before I run makes my stomach not too lekker (almost wakes the digestive system up). It is critical that you eat before you run if you running more than 10km and especially with Marathons/Ultras where you need the fuel. I would maybe try avoiding foods that agitate you gut such as grains, dairy, caffeine etc. What works well for me is 2 x hot cross buns with peanut butter on. Then just before race time, I have a banana and the usual race fuels such as dates, nuts etc.

I agree I can't drink coffee before a race. I am using Pace and Power at the moment and I use the EnduraShake for breakfast. It works brilliantly for me, as I can stomach a shake in the very early morning hours and not food.

[Andrew Steer]

Reminds me of pic a saw......

 

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What about the other 48km's of the running leg   

[Andrew Steer]

We triathletes do runs of the bike for fun 

That's cause you guys have bricks in your head 

[shaper]

That's cause you guys have bricks in your head 

We trained and learned to move the bricks from our legs after the cycle to our head