Cyclists with a "Running" Problem

[Stretch]

anyone running with flexible natural running shoes? I have been recommended by multiple people to switch from the rigid asics support to a shoe that does not prevent you running on the balls of your feet. ....and I am now seriously considering it

[LouisS]

Some advice from the old hands please?

Next year will be my 1st Comrades. Listening to some of "Coach Parry's" podcasts, he recommends nothing more than 2 ultra's and 1 marathon or 2 marathon's and 1 ultra from January, given that the last one is 6 weeks before COM and the other spaced 4 weeks apart.

Coming from a cycling background and aerobically quite fit (finished Epic in March).

I'm new to running and only started running 3 months ago. I'm currently running half marathons easily around 2 hours. Hoping to run bronze.

My game plan is as follow and would like know if you guys agree?

1) Johnsons Crane qualifier end January.

2) Om die Dam Ultra mid March

3) Loskop Ultra mid April

 

(Then still doing a rustige Sani2C with my wife 11-13 May)

 

Thanks in advance!

[Orbit]

anyone running with flexible natural running shoes? I have been recommended by multiple people to switch from the rigid asics support to a shoe that does not prevent you running on the balls of your feet. ....and I am now seriously considering it

 

Running in NB 1080 with 8mm drop and I love them but I've never been a minimalist type of guy. They aren't super flexi but also have low enough drop to let my feet do their thing. Why don't you do more form work on your stride rather than changing shoe?

[Stretch]

Running in NB 1080 with 8mm drop and I love them but I've never been a minimalist type of guy. They aren't super flexi but also have low enough drop to let my feet do their thing. Why don't you do more form work on your stride rather than changing shoe?

 

primary reason is that the shoe is restricting true running style...forcing you to land heel first

[Jackes]

Just a recap on ITB if I may...

 

The only preventative/recovery excercises that you can do is the strenthening of core, butt, hips and the muscles around the knees.   Foam rolling and not increasing milleage to much week on week.

 

Is that about it?

[ScottCM]

Just a recap on ITB if I may...

 

The only preventative/recovery excercises that you can do is the strenthening of core, butt, hips and the muscles around the knees.   Foam rolling and not increasing milleage to much week on week.

 

Is that about it?

 

And stretching

 

Andrew Steer not De Klerk posted this video on this thread last year August

 

[Jackes]

And stretching

 

 

Oh yes thanks, I do that as well.   Just sometimes difficult after races.

 

I want to keep thinks right this time around, do not want a knee to come bugger up everthing along the way, seeing that I do feel a very slight pain on the outside of the knee after this weekends 24 mountain race...

Edited September 28, 2016 by Jackes

[Stretch]

Oh yes thanks, I do that as well.   Just sometimes difficult after races.

 

I want to keep thinks right this time around, do not want a knee to come bugger up everthing along the way, seeing that I do feel a very slight pain on the outside of the knee after this weekends 24 mountain race...

 

there is that standing stretch where you cross your leg over your knee and then go down in the squat position. thats the best way i can describe it. basically like a man sitting with his leg crossed over without the chair

[Ferret69]

Just a recap on ITB if I may...

 

The only preventative/recovery excercises that you can do is the strenthening of core, butt, hips and the muscles around the knees.   Foam rolling and not increasing milleage to much week on week.

 

Is that about it?

 

 

See a few articles below about the ITB Itself and "Should you roll an ITB" from Mike @ SBR

 

He along with many other Specialists are adamant the ITB should NOT be rolled with a foam roller

 

https://sbrsport.me/2012/09/26/what-is-itb/

 

https://sbrsport.me/2014/03/13/should-you-foam-roll-an-illiotibial-band/

 

I use Mike often for Myofascial Release and other Niggles and IMHO he really knows his stuff

[Stretch]

 

 

I use Mike often for Myofascial Release and other Niggles and IMHO he really knows his stuff

 

that is possibly the best thing for tight ITB...really great treatment

[Hacc]

Some advice from the old hands please?

Next year will be my 1st Comrades. Listening to some of "Coach Parry's" podcasts, he recommends nothing more than 2 ultra's and 1 marathon or 2 marathon's and 1 ultra from January, given that the last one is 6 weeks before COM and the other spaced 4 weeks apart.

Coming from a cycling background and aerobically quite fit (finished Epic in March).

I'm new to running and only started running 3 months ago. I'm currently running half marathons easily around 2 hours. Hoping to run bronze.

My game plan is as follow and would like know if you guys agree?

1) Johnsons Crane qualifier end January.

2) Om die Dam Ultra mid March

3) Loskop Ultra mid April

 

(Then still doing a rustige Sani2C with my wife 11-13 May)

 

Thanks in advance!

 

I did Johnsons, Om die Dam and Two Oceans before my first Comrades. I used google docs (spreadsheet) to log my kilometers and more importantly how I felt with each run. My total kilometers was 1000km from Jan to the end of April. In May I took it easy and only did one 21km.. rested for two weeks before Comrades. I didn't know what to expect on the day and I wasn't even thinking about time... I just wanted to finish before the 12 hours cutoff. Just enjoy your first one. Comrades is tough, most people I know who has completed Ironman and Comrades say that Comrades is tougher. 

 

It takes a lot of commitment, not just from you but your family as well. You don't have much of a social life / late nights on weekends. On the other hand, I met awesome people and made good friends with fellow runners. 

 

There is no better feeling in the world when you cross that finish line, it makes all the sacrifices and hard work worth it.

[ScottCM]

This morning i went for my first ever physio appointment as this bloody knee isn't stopping. 

Things i learnt:

 

1) The physio hurts you!!

2) I have weak hip and butt mechanics which have to be worked on

3) Knee problem is thanks to Patellar Tendonitis (Jumpers Knee)

 

So as suspected, rest is the order of the day, will go back on Monday for next appointment.

 

How is everyone's training going?

Almost taper time for you isn't it stretch?

 

EDIT: Definition of Jumpers Knee "Patellar tendinitis is an injury to the tendon connecting your kneecap (patella) to your shinbone. The patellar tendon works with the muscles at the front of your thigh to extend your knee so you can kick, run and jump."

Edited September 29, 2016 by ScottC-M

[Pulse]

anyone running with flexible natural running shoes? I have been recommended by multiple people to switch from the rigid asics support to a shoe that does not prevent you running on the balls of your feet. ....and I am now seriously considering it

I changed over from Acics GT2.... and Kayano to a very minimalist shoes about 2 1/2 years ago. It was the only way for me to sort out very long standing (>10yrs) achilles issues. Counterintuitively moving onto the forefoot was great.

 

I still do very long runs (>30k) in 'normal' shoes, so train in those about 1x/wk

[Lexx]

I did Johnsons, Om die Dam and Two Oceans before my first Comrades. I used google docs (spreadsheet) to log my kilometers and more importantly how I felt with each run. My total kilometers was 1000km from Jan to the end of April. In May I took it easy and only did one 21km.. rested for two weeks before Comrades. I didn't know what to expect on the day and I wasn't even thinking about time... I just wanted to finish before the 12 hours cutoff. Just enjoy your first one. Comrades is tough, most people I know who has completed Ironman and Comrades say that Comrades is tougher. 

 

It takes a lot of commitment, not just from you but your family as well. You don't have much of a social life / late nights on weekends. On the other hand, I met awesome people and made good friends with fellow runners. 

 

There is no better feeling in the world when you cross that finish line, it makes all the sacrifices and hard work worth it.

I usually ran 3 Ultras. The Jock ( From Baberton to Kaapmuiden. Before it got canned), The Original Long-Tom Ultra (Not the New Version. Old one was much tougher) and the Loskop Marathon. But Plenty of 30-40 km Training runs on Weekends from January to June.

I used Log Books that i recorded all my training data. Never used Strava, well strava wasnt available that time.   

Usually ended up with 1800-2100 km. But i was much younger and had no worries of family or kids etc...

[ScottCM]

primary reason is that the shoe is restricting true running style...forcing you to land heel first

 

http://s50.podbean.com/pb/1abf001614b204b6dd264b74b0116758/57ecd9ab/data2/blogs57/534779/uploads/Mark_Cucuzella.mp3

 

You might be interested in what Dr. Mark Cucuzella says on the topic. 

 

https://runnersconnect.net/running-interviews/how-to-transition-to-minimalst-running-mark-cucuzzella/

Edited September 29, 2016 by ScottC-M

[seven]

I changed over from Acics GT2.... and Kayano to a very minimalist shoes about 2 1/2 years ago. It was the only way for me to sort out very long standing (>10yrs) achilles issues. Counterintuitively moving onto the forefoot was great.

 

I still do very long runs (>30k) in 'normal' shoes, so train in those about 1x/wk

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