Pikey Posted May 24, 2016 Share I asked for money back/product back. But now says he didn't know, says money spent. I'm giving him a day or two to come around. Then I'm going to flame the guy. How could you not know about this, or disclose it...?IMG_3041.jpgHoly cr$p balls...is the seller joking ? He's taking the piss big time.. That's b@ll@cks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZakAttak Posted May 24, 2016 Share I asked for money back/product back. But now says he didn't know, says money spent. I'm giving him a day or two to come around. Then I'm going to flame the guy. How could you not know about this, or disclose it...?IMG_3041.jpg Eish, detailed picture close up all around is probably the nex best bet... Sorry about this but the guy that sold you this is a true and utter chop for even trying to sell something this badly worn... Rate him negatively as **** like this should not carry on... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pikey Posted May 24, 2016 Share agreed but then this would be again, buyer and seller rating. you rate as seller, he rate as buyer i have 1 rating as seller and like 7-8 as a buyer, i can however still be as dodgy as hell!maybe you dodgy as a buyer ???????????? as well ! Possibly but your rating as a buyer goes towards your integrity as person somewhat surely ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sepia Posted May 24, 2016 Share agreed but then this would be again, buyer and seller rating. you rate as seller, he rate as buyer i have 1 rating as seller and like 7-8 as a buyer, i can however still be as dodgy as hell!Yes, but we know you are not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZakAttak Posted May 24, 2016 Share What about enforcing a discount for every post below 100? For example, my post count is 65, I think, which is 35 below 100. If I want to sell something, it has to be at a 35% discount? Nice way to dig a hole for yourself... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sepia Posted May 24, 2016 Share towards your integrity as person somewhat surely ?This. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meezo Posted May 24, 2016 Share maybe you dodgy as a buyer as well ! Possibly but your rating as a buyer goes towards your integrity as person somewhat surely ? Yes, but we know you are not. agree with both, i was just using myself as an example and not accusing anyone... but i know of a case, hubber had 2 good ratings, both for selling. real life example .my brother and close friend contacted a hubber for a fork. they paid and bought the same fork not to their knowledge of course the seller claimed he had 2 forks, the forks were never delivered and he had sold both the forks elsewhere. both my brother and friend was down 4.5k, however thanks to the help of admin, and the the sellers father the money was refunded after about 2 months. not necessarily a dodgy seller, just a little spoilt kid taking his chances. yet he has/had 2 good ratings. EDIT: very very bad grammer, now its just bad Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cpelser Posted May 24, 2016 Share Let me get on the bandwagon.. I don't mind people TAKING THE RISK in buying something second hand and trying to resell for a profit. It's a risk as you never know the exact condition of second hand parts with certainty, particularly if you haven't used them and tested them for a while. However, Christmas Tree recently bought a set of X9 shifters for R150 and Elixer brakes for R300 from a good friend of mine. Before my friend even couriered the items to him he already re-advertised them for multiples of the purchase prices, claiming the items to be in good condition.Now my issue is - how can anyone buying from him know that the stuff he sells is in good working order if he's never tested it (and may not even have it..?)In certain cases the reason why the original seller sells at a crazy discount is because the parts need some attention. I would rather require him to disclose that he's bought the items and is re-selling the items for a profit rather than to not say anything and have guys assume its his own stuff that he's tested.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pikey Posted May 24, 2016 Share agree with both, i was just using myself as an example and not accusing anyone... but i know of a case, hubber had 2 good ratings, both for selling. real life example .my brother and close friend contacted a hubber for a fork. they paid and bought the same fork not to their knowledge of course the seller claimed he had 2 forks, the forks were never delivered and he had sold both the forks elsewhere. both my brother and friend was down 4.5k, however thanks to the help of admin, and the the sellers father the money was refunded after about 2 months. not necessarily a dodgy seller, just a little spoilt kid taking his chances. yet he has/had 2 good ratings. EDIT: very very bad grammer, now its just badGeez,let's face it. Whenever you buy with out looking or collecting coz they in a different Provence you run a risk regardless. I have bought from new hubbers with no posts or ratings. Risky I know ,but have called them and based all those purchases on my conversations with the person and tried to get a feel for who they are. And more than a few times,and Everytime goods are as described. And brillant ppl to deal with and chat to. So no rules are stead fast unfortunately . (Stating the obvious ????) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigTom Posted May 24, 2016 Share agree with both, i was just using myself as an example and not accusing anyone... but i know of a case, hubber had 2 good ratings, both for selling. real life example .my brother and close friend contacted a hubber for a fork. they paid and bought the same fork not to their knowledge of course the seller claimed he had 2 forks, the forks were never delivered and he had sold both the forks elsewhere. both my brother and friend was down 4.5k, however thanks to the help of admin, and the the sellers father the money was refunded after about 2 months. not necessarily a dodgy seller, just a little spoilt kid taking his chances. yet he has/had 2 good ratings. EDIT: very very bad grammer, now its just badHmmm. Wonder who that is? Still waiting for my refund... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Showtime Posted May 24, 2016 Share Some people just have a different idea of what is ok. A while back I bought a 2nd hand powertap wheel with cassette from the classifieds for R6 500. I was really busy commissioning equipment at a client and just made an impulse buy. Reading his messages it basically sounded like I was buying a new wheel. A few weeks later I finally had a weekend at home and thought let's play with the power meter. The wheel couldn't even turn in my brake blocks it was so out of true and some of the spokes had no tension. No problem I sent the wheel to a reputable wheel builder and had it rebuilt with new spokes for R1 200. Now the wheel was true but then when trying to ride the chain just skipped. Upon inspection the cassette was moertoe. No problem I take a new cassette out of my spares cupboard to fit. When removing the old cassette the freehub is completely notched so I will need to replace that at ~R1 500. Then when I was testing on my powerbeam pro in ergo mode the power is jumping around while the powerbeam power is stable. So I will have to send the wheel in and probably find out they need to replace the torque tube or something. I'm quite certain it will end up costing the same as a new powertap wheel. Was I scammed, not really. Would I sell an item in that condition, absolutely not. It was obviously sold because it was used up. Now the bad part. I never rated the sale and cannot remember the hub name to do it now as all our correspondence was via SMS. Don't be like me, rate your transactions people! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barry Stuart Posted May 24, 2016 Share Let me get on the bandwagon.. I don't mind people TAKING THE RISK in buying something second hand and trying to resell for a profit. It's a risk as you never know the exact condition of second hand parts with certainty, particularly if you haven't used them and tested them for a while. However, Christmas Tree recently bought a set of X9 shifters for R150 and Elixer brakes for R300 from a good friend of mine. Before my friend even couriered the items to him he already re-advertised them for multiples of the purchase prices, claiming the items to be in good condition.Now my issue is - how can anyone buying from him know that the stuff he sells is in good working order if he's never tested it (and may not even have it..?)In certain cases the reason why the original seller sells at a crazy discount is because the parts need some attention. I would rather require him to disclose that he's bought the items and is re-selling the items for a profit rather than to not say anything and have guys assume its his own stuff that he's tested..Are you sure they were the exact same items? One of the benefits of buying from Mr CT is that you've got a guy with a great knowledge of bike mechanics vetting the items before buying them and selling them on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cpelser Posted May 24, 2016 Share Are you sure they were the exact same items? One of the benefits of buying from Mr CT is that you've got a guy with a great knowledge of bike mechanics vetting the items before buying them and selling them on.Dead sure. Unless he just re-used my friend's photos. Again, I don't mind what he's doing as long as he tests the components and are open about it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meezo Posted May 24, 2016 Share Dead sure. Unless he just re-used my friend's photos. Again, I don't mind what he's doing as long as he tests the components and are open about it. he do nothing wrongs, its just forbidden in this book http://s2.quickmeme.com/img/7c/7c100fd31edab38d4ee5122a4125fc584835e6cca95d316721fb64dbc75bf844.jpg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pipsqueak Posted May 24, 2016 Share It makes me sick to do this, because I've always had good experiences buying from Classifieds. These transactions have always been done in good faith, and I've done plenty of them. But yesterday this guy changed all that. Hanru Lubbe. Nelspruit fellow.https://www.bikehub.co.za/forum/user/73980-hanru-lubbe/ Here's how it went... He posted an ad for a Reba - I phoned, asked about condition & stanchions. The answer was "in good condition & just been serviced". I checked him out - no sales but he's been a Hubber for a while. So I paid him. Fork arrives - huge damage to 1 stanchion. Terminal.I immediately asked if I could return it. He said he didn't know about the damage and that the bike shop that serviced it had told him it was sound. Also said he'd spent the money already. So I asked which bike shop - the reply was that it was a guy who used to work in a bike shop, and he didn't have the number. Go figure. So here's a guy who doesn't disclose fatal damage to a fork he advertises in good condition, not taking accountability - denying any knowledge at all, and then failing to provide any legitimate info on his shaky excuses. Hanru, I hope you sleep well at night. If you see anything for sale from this dude, steer clear. He is apparently not a person of upstanding character, which is a great pity. He asked me to stick to the truth so there you have it. Folks, you've been warned. You'll see a Dual air Reba for sale soon - maybe for a grand. If you need spares, give me a shout. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the nerd Posted May 24, 2016 Share Are you sure they were the exact same items? One of the benefits of buying from Mr CT is that you've got a guy with a great knowledge of bike mechanics vetting the items before buying them and selling them on. Agree with Radman, the other thing is if you buy from CT and something isnt right he'll refund you and take the item back. He isn't a dodgy seller/buyer, he is just a buyer/seller... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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