RockCoach Posted September 14, 2016 Share Actually the Saints are smaller 90x96 and the DMR V12 100x95. Hmmm... did you also measure them? http://i225.photobucket.com/albums/dd175/Seanf1art/20160914_093410_zpsf70s1dpu.jpg The Saints platform measures wider but will also be wider on the bike in terms of Q factor. Captain Fastbastard Mayhem and Chavo 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Fastbastard Mayhem Posted September 14, 2016 Share Getting em out after they've hit rocks. Tearing out and destroying the threads.Wonder if they'll be available locally at all.International shipping only at the moment. They do it direct off their website afaik Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Fastbastard Mayhem Posted September 14, 2016 Share why are the grub screws an issue?As thermo said, rock strikes are a big problem with grub screws. They're ripped out and deform the threads so when you replace the damaged / lost grubs, they don't stay put for long. MTBeer 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bizkit031 Posted September 14, 2016 Share Hmmm... did you also measure them? http://i225.photobucket.com/albums/dd175/Seanf1art/20160914_093410_zpsf70s1dpu.jpg The Saints platform measures wider but will also be wider on the bike in terms of Q factor. Something is wrong with Shimanos measurements then because those sizes I quoted are from them. Edited September 14, 2016 by Bizkit031 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chavo Posted September 15, 2016 Share While most signs are pointing toward the Saints as one of the better options to pursue, are there any opinions on Da Bomb pedals? http://www.dabomb.co.za/productcategory/pedals Can't find out much about them on the interwebs, apart from what the manufacturer has to say (not that I have trawled extensively). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duane_Bosch Posted September 15, 2016 Share Just goes to show, man. All that speak of "we'll never sell them, people don't want them" is just BS. IDIOT importers. It's not that easy. If importers were clairvoyant and knew what people would buy they'd bring the stuff in for sure. Budget provided of course. Unfortunately none of them have unlimited budgets and we are a picky bunch. We WANT all the variety in the world but are we actually going to part with our cash for it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
popcorn_skollie Posted September 15, 2016 Share I've been using the giant pedals with circa skate shoes on my jump bike. I clip in on my trail bike. I can't complain about grip. They work well. But the pins chow through all my shoes. The circa's seem to last longer though. I've never owned a pair of proper flat riding shoes. 5tens are too expensive for someone like me who predominantly rides clipped in. I understand the grub vs bolts after reading this. But I have to ask. Are the pins on the pedal a personal compromise between how well it grips and how much it eats into your shoes? Or is grip a sure thing as long as its pinned and if you don't want your shoes chomped you should get 5tens. I say a friends 5ten soles who were pretty chewed up so. Just wondering. Pedals are the last thing I need for the bike I'm building... Captain Fastbastard Mayhem 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Fastbastard Mayhem Posted September 15, 2016 Share My 5-10's have stood up to the pins very well, but there was apparently a batch that had issues with longevity. Maybe your mate's was from that batch. Generally speaking, and despite the tackiness of the rubber, the 5-10's stand up very well. It's not unknown for a pair of shoes to last 3 to 4 years with loads of riding. As for pins - it depends. My saints are less grippy than my superstars were, but then they have chamfered bolts vs the constant size of the grubs in the superstars, so that may be why. But it is essentially like having a bit of float on the pedals vs being stuck in place and having to literally lift to reposition, which is what I had to do on the superstars. popcorn_skollie 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chavo Posted October 1, 2016 Share With Shimano Saints, does anyone keep the washers that shorten pin length in place? Or do you run the pins sans washers to extend pin length? Guessing it is largely up to personal preference, just interested to know what the preferences are Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Fastbastard Mayhem Posted October 1, 2016 Share With Shimano Saints, does anyone keep the washers that shorten pin length in place? Or do you run the pins sans washers to extend pin length? Guessing it is largely up to personal preference, just interested to know what the preferences areRemove the washer, thank me later CdT85, Chavo, AlanD and 2 others 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
igg Posted October 2, 2016 Share I have a set of washers if anyone wants to make their saints worse . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jcvwburger Posted October 17, 2016 Share really tempted to make the move flatside.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thermophage Posted October 17, 2016 Share So...until recently I have been riding the Saint's.Step 1...remove the washersStep 2...enjoy the awesome rideAnyway, they're great and I have enjoyed em. But then I got a second bike (HT) and moved the Saint's across to it and needed new flats for the Spitfire.CRC...Spank Oozy Trail...Though I'd give em a try as almost R1000 cheaper (landed) than local and not significantly more then the Saints either.OMFS...a marked improvement over the Saints...instantly noticeable. I have recently been having to ride in skate sneakers due to my Spez 2FO's being warranteed (again) due to the soles having chunks torn out (this time after 5 weeks) and the Saint's with sneakers are OK, but the Spanks...still 100%.With a proper pair of flat shoes they're beyond sick.Anyhoo...would 100% recommend to anyone...but honestly.NOT at RSA pricing... RockCoach, Eddy Gordo and AlanD 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CdT85 Posted October 17, 2016 Share Remove the washer, thank me later^^^^^This I have been riding Saints with normal Etnies sneakers and they (Etnies) have been lasting nearly 3 years. Not bad for a R600 skate shoe Edited October 17, 2016 by Otero Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Piston ZA Posted October 17, 2016 Share really tempted to make the move flatside....Do it Thermophage 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thermophage Posted October 17, 2016 Share Do itThere are not many people that ever go back once they give flats a proper go. Piston ZA 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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