_David_ Posted November 2, 2017 Share Even on the downhills? Eg From the Lindley circle down to the bridge, and then up to Valverde on the left? I think a Fat Boab will be faster than a Skinny Boab on the downhills EmJayZA and Fat Boab 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craai Posted November 2, 2017 Share Sugar is my downfall. Haha. The only time I train with any sort of calories is on my long rides. My longest run has been 1hr40 to date, and that was also done on just water. 5kgs from my race weight, so it's proving a little difficult to drop. But, Rome wasn't built in a day. I am an adrenalin junky, so descending is actually a highlight for me. Lots of room for improvement, but I am comfortable enough on my bike now to not hold back. My top speed on my road bike in the Cradle has been around 60kph to date. Not sure how to push faster than that yet. Will the course be spread out enough to allow us to descend quickly? I tend to err on the side of caution (ie not descend flat-out) in mass participation events. You can never predict what the person in front of you will do so I give ample space to the guy in front when descending quickly.You can't win a race on a downhill, but you can certainly lose it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fat Boab Posted November 2, 2017 Share I think a Fat Boab will be faster than a Skinny Boab on the downhills True story! And then apply rule #23...... EmJayZA and _David_ 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EmJayZA Posted November 2, 2017 Share Even on the downhills? Eg From the Lindley circle down to the bridge, and then up to Valverde on the left? lol. What a question. Wish I could see 60km on a flat. No. I have not descended down that hill. I have only done the loop I think a handful of times now. I leave Bidon and do the loop anti clockwise. Last weekend I saw a new top speed, so slowly getting faster. I am sure I could go a little faster, but not 100% certain. I tuck down and everything in to reduce my size as much as possible. So not sure how else to descend faster? I ride an S2 Cervelo, which is an aero frame, so my bike is decent. I suppose I could go into the descents faster and that extra speed will have a multiplicative effect. Edited November 2, 2017 by EmJayZA Fat Boab 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EmJayZA Posted November 2, 2017 Share I tend to err on the side of caution (ie not descend flat-out) in mass participation events. You can never predict what the person in front of you will do so I give ample space to the guy in front when descending quickly.You can't win a race on a downhill, but you can certainly lose it. Yes, I do agree 100%. Safety first, always. Hence why I asked how open the field is, as I was imagining the downhill portion being a long downhill ride feathering my brakes to not break the drafting rules, and to stay safe. Would be nice to open up a little though. Was quite excited about that. Edited November 2, 2017 by EmJayZA Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fat Boab Posted November 2, 2017 Share lol. What a question. Wish I could see 60km on a flat. No. I have not descended down that hill. I have only done the loop I think a handful of times now. I leave Bidon and do the loop anti clockwise. Last weekend I saw a new top speed, so slowly getting faster. I am sure I could go a little faster, but not 100% certain. I tuck down and everything in to reduce my size as much as possible. So not sure how else to descend faster? I ride an S2 Cervelo, which is an aero frame, so my bike is decent. I suppose I could go into the descents faster and that extra speed will have a multiplicative effect. If you're new to this 2-wheeled game - a presumption, so excuse me - then you won't be familiar with the Rules (http://www.velominati.com/the-rules/). The relevant one here follows (be safe out there....): Rule #23 // Tuck only after reaching Escape Velocity.You may only employ the aerodynamic tuck after you have spun out your 53 x 11; the tuck is to be engaged only when your legs can no longer keep up. Your legs make you go fast, and trying to keep your fat ass out of the wind only serves to keep you from slowing down once you reach escape velocity. Thus, the tuck is only to be employed to prevent you slowing down when your legs have wrung the top end out of your block. Tucking prematurely while descending is the antithesis of Casually Deliberate. For more on riding fast downhill see Rule #64 and Rule #85. IceCreamMan and EmJayZA 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EmJayZA Posted November 2, 2017 Share If you're new to this 2-wheeled game - a presumption, so excuse me - then you won't be familiar with the Rules (http://www.velominati.com/the-rules/). The relevant one here follows (be safe out there....): Rule #23 // Tuck only after reaching Escape Velocity.You may only employ the aerodynamic tuck after you have spun out your 53 x 11; the tuck is to be engaged only when your legs can no longer keep up. Your legs make you go fast, and trying to keep your fat ass out of the wind only serves to keep you from slowing down once you reach escape velocity. Thus, the tuck is only to be employed to prevent you slowing down when your legs have wrung the top end out of your block. Tucking prematurely while descending is the antithesis of Casually Deliberate. For more on riding fast downhill see Rule #64 and Rule #85. Yes. Very green to this cycling thing. Been riding 6 months actually. Sounds longish I suppose, but I only get out on my bike once a week. Read the rules - needed a refresher though as I forgot about Rule 23, and a few others. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gurns Posted November 2, 2017 Share What was your finishing time? The race must have been brutal. My cousin finished in just under 6 hours, overweight and with very, very little training. Some people are just able to push through these things. I on the other hand have to train weeks to just shave off 30 seconds off my 5km time - and I am still slow. He is doing IM, and his training is around 4 hours a week at present. It's going to be interesting to see him at EL and what his IMSA finish time is. Some people are just naturals imo. I finished in 5.57 so I was very happy with my time.I have been doing Tri for nearly 30 years now, so I guess there is a bit of muscle memory involved. I'm not a natural cyclist at all, swimming and running come quite easy though. EmJayZA 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SEANSTEP Posted November 4, 2017 Share Authorised theft? That is my question with regard to the R100 plus added on to the Iron Man South Africa event entry for "Easy Registration", not like it looks like you had the option of "difficult registration". Certainly led down one path. Someone is making some tidy money. This is down right unacceptable. Once you've filled in everything you come across this additional bill. Regardless of whether it is the service provider (Easy Registration?) "earning" the money or the event it's unacceptable & deceitful. This insidious practice is one South Africans need to make a noise about. It all needs to be upfront, not tacked on at the end. A fuss over R100 plus? Times that by number of entrants... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shaper Posted November 4, 2017 Share Authorised theft? That is my question with regard to the R100 plus added on to the Iron Man South Africa event entry for "Easy Registration", not like it looks like you had the option of "difficult registration". Certainly led down one path. Someone is making some tidy money. This is down right unacceptable. Once you've filled in everything you come across this additional bill. Regardless of whether it is the service provider (Easy Registration?) "earning" the money or the event it's unacceptable & deceitful. This insidious practice is one South Africans need to make a noise about. It all needs to be upfront, not tacked on at the end. A fuss over R100 plus? Times that by number of entrants...Responded here https://community.bikehub.co.za/topic/170799-authorised-theft/ And there is no need to clog up the board by posting elsewhere just because you did not get an immediate reply here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thisismyotherbike Posted November 4, 2017 Share Authorised theft? That is my question with regard to the R100 plus added on to the Iron Man South Africa event entry for "Easy Registration", not like it looks like you had the option of "difficult registration". Certainly led down one path. Someone is making some tidy money. This is down right unacceptable. Once you've filled in everything you come across this additional bill. Regardless of whether it is the service provider (Easy Registration?) "earning" the money or the event it's unacceptable & deceitful. This insidious practice is one South Africans need to make a noise about. It all needs to be upfront, not tacked on at the end. A fuss over R100 plus? Times that by number of entrants... That's about 2% of hidden fees. Try entering for Ironman Barcelona where there is an 8% "Active Fee" over and above the advertised price. I agree that it's merely extracting a somewhat masked higher price for an already overpriced event, but if the demand is there they'll keep at it. Ironman is wholly owned by Wanda Group and 100% for profit. It annoys the living daylights out of me, but I still pay up! SEANSTEP and _David_ 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gurns Posted November 6, 2017 Share I finished in 5.57 so I was very happy with my time.I have been doing Tri for nearly 30 years now, so I guess there is a bit of muscle memory involved. I'm not a natural cyclist at all, swimming and running come quite easy though.I must clarify that I do partake in Pilates once a week, and swing Kettlebells once or twice a week on a regular basis, so I do keep reasonably fit even when I'm not doing any swimming, cycling or running Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IceCreamMan Posted November 6, 2017 Share That's about 2% of hidden fees. Try entering for Ironman Barcelona where there is an 8% "Active Fee" over and above the advertised price. I agree that it's merely extracting a somewhat masked higher price for an already overpriced event, but if the demand is there they'll keep at it. Ironman is wholly owned by Wanda Group and 100% for profit. It annoys the living daylights out of me, but I still pay up!Yip, 8 percent for uk events too. In some cases booking fees are even higher as a percentage, case in point for roger waters in Hyde park next year its 10 pounds on a 75pound ticket. That’s crazy percentages. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
g3n151d3 Posted November 10, 2017 Share I started running a year ago after a looong period of sitting behind a desk daily at work and stuffing my face while laying on the couch in the evenings. So with the extra weight I managed to quickly run myself into shin splints that braked my running effort quit effectively. So then bought a bike to pick up the slack from the running. The biking and running started peaking my interest in Triathlons. So I started watching videos, reading, and then some and that then became my goal for next (hopefully) year. So now that I'm crawling along again and cycling is picking up I decided to start doing brick sessions as well. I nearly died. I did a very short cycle, changed shoes and started running. My legs still tried to pedal when I wanted to run, when that eventually came right my calves decided they had enough and ceased up like an old mazda with no engin oil. the rest of the very short run was slightly uncomfortable! The point of my story... I take my hat of to you guys doing this for fun! One day when I'm big I want to be able to do this properly as well!! Although my legs tell me a different story today Chris_, @ndy, shaper and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shaper Posted November 10, 2017 Share I started running a year ago after a looong period of sitting behind a desk daily at work and stuffing my face while laying on the couch in the evenings. So with the extra weight I managed to quickly run myself into shin splints that braked my running effort quit effectively. So then bought a bike to pick up the slack from the running. The biking and running started peaking my interest in Triathlons. So I started watching videos, reading, and then some and that then became my goal for next (hopefully) year. So now that I'm crawling along again and cycling is picking up I decided to start doing brick sessions as well. I nearly died. I did a very short cycle, changed shoes and started running. My legs still tried to pedal when I wanted to run, when that eventually came right my calves decided they had enough and ceased up like an old mazda with no engin oil. the rest of the very short run was slightly uncomfortable! The point of my story... I take my hat of to you guys doing this for fun! One day when I'm big I want to be able to do this properly as well!! Although my legs tell me a different story today Keep doing what you are doing, it will become easier... especially the brick sessions, the human body is a fantastic thing and adapts almost without you noticing!! As for the running take it slowly your body needs to build strength for the high impact, the cycling can be pushed on a steeper ramp up. Good luck on the with the goal for aiming to do a tri next year!! We look forward to the race report when you have completed one!! g3n151d3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SeaBee Posted November 10, 2017 Share Oh bugger... I may as well say it. Going for my first swimming lesson next week. And it's not that I'm a bad swimmer, hoping to improve I CAN'T swim. Here goes... shaper, _David_, g3n151d3 and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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