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The latest in the motorised doping saga: Typhoon Bikes


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Today's bikes can easily shed more weight. The minimum weight limit is 6.8kg. The world's lightest bike is 2.7kg.

 

Thanks that makes sense. I suppose where its down to fitness there will always be cheating in some or other form.

 

I much prefer skill based sports such as enduro/downhill where skill plays a much larger role than fitness. No way to dope for better skill  :clap:

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Thanks that makes sense. I suppose where its down to fitness there will always be cheating in some or other form.

 

I much prefer skill based sports such as enduro/downhill where skill plays a much larger role than fitness. No way to dope for better skill :clap:

Make no mistake. DH comes with a different set of fitness requirements and the focus would be on illegal substances to aid recovery after injury. Other games like golf is also exposed to this.
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Who needs all this tech when you can find 60W by switching to 172.5mm cranks

I switched from 172.5 to 167.5; I have a higher cadence style, average 90-92. If I really lost 60 or 120 watts, I can't say I've noticed it...

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You just have to wonder how if this has been used in Pro racing?

 

One hit wonders that never really performed after one big win.

I'm afraid I place the level of trust in pro cyclists at below that of the scaliest lawyers and estate agents...

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I can't believe that the website is for real - its basically encouraging racing fraud and refers to doping as if its the norm. 

 

Then again, maybe it is..... 

LOL of course it is.

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I recon this is a load of Bull $h!t in this day and age in pro road racing mainly due to aero road frame designs. Thus not having round or straight seat tubes.

 

Maybe in the passed or the amateur ranks where top end sponsored bikes are not the norm.

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i'm not entirely against electric bikes.

just think i can go for a decent ride with my mom! - thats a legit statement.

my mom enjoys cycling, but is one of those weekend every-so-often riders that enjoys getting out every now and then to pedal a sedate 18km/h.

 

these bikes might also make sense in a commute to work enviroment?

 

i in no way endorse these bikes for a racing enviroment

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I've just had a look at all the UCI World Tour Teams and the only team/bike that by my calculations can accommodate a standard cylinder type motor is: LottoNL–Jumbo and only if they on a Bianchi Sempre Pro.

 

All the other bike either have a 27.2 seatpost or some sort of aero seat tube with an irregular shapes or curves. Not to mention that if the seat tube is large enough to accommodate a motor it would have to intersect the BB in the center otherwise the motors gear will not line up with the crank spindle. 

 

I recon you could cut a hole in the frame and place a motor in the down tube of a frame where there is generally a lot more room.

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I've just had a look at all the UCI World Tour Teams and the only team/bike that by my calculations can accommodate a standard cylinder type motor is: LottoNL–Jumbo and only if they on a Bianchi Sempre Pro.

 

All the other bike either have a 27.2 seatpost or some sort of aero seat tube with an irregular shapes or curves. Not to mention that if the seat tube is large enough to accommodate a motor it would have to intersect the BB in the center otherwise the motors gear will not line up with the crank spindle.

 

I recon you could cut a hole in the frame and place a motor in the down tube of a frame where there is generally a lot more room.

Yeah that's the problem with these cheating type motors, difficult to accommodate them in modern frame designs. UCI check all the bikes irrespective

See link I posted from tour de Suisse UCI dude checking sky spare bikes on the car roof.

 

https://community.bikehub.co.za/topic/160802-tour-of-switzerland-2016/page-5?

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Lets look at it from a different angle. Yes, definitely not good for RACING. This can be an option for the daily commuter that's in the market for a motorised bicycle. Motorised bikes with large batteries are generally very heavy. Maybe it's a way to get more people on bikes. That can't be a bad thing. The same argument is for those in possession of a gun and comes with human responsibility and what you do with it. 

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The e-bike market is growing rapidly here in Germany.  More and more bike dealers I am talking to are moving into e-bikes.  For the normal Joe Soap that just want to go and ride a bike in the sun and not die while enjoying it.  One also has to take into consideration that there alot of elderly people here who still actually like riding a bike and they are buying e-bikes.

 

As far as doping goes ... there will always be cheats. Wether cheating with blood or motors and the sporting bodies will need to work on catching them.

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E-bikes per se are not the problem. But making e-bikes look exactly like high end racing bikes - with no identification at all - is another story.

 

A very easy thing for the UCI to do is pass a law that all e-bikes need to have very clear identification on the frames so that we all know what they are and that people can't just pitch up to a race and pretend they are something they are not.

 

Honest people who just want an e-bike for commuting or social rides shouldn't have any problem having their bike clearly identified as one.

 

But that still doesn't change the fact that we are soon going to have many of these in our local amateur racing bunches (esp. vets) and we won't have any clue because there is no way the race organisers are going to be able to police this issue.

 

So if you're not talented enough or fit enough, you can still crush the field if you're wealthy enough.

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E-bikes per se are not the problem. But making e-bikes look exactly like high end racing bikes - with no identification at all - is another story.

 

A very easy thing for the UCI to do is pass a law that all e-bikes need to have very clear identification on the frames so that we all know what they are and that people can't just pitch up to a race and pretend they are something they are not.

 

Honest people who just want an e-bike for commuting or social rides shouldn't have any problem having their bike clearly identified as one.

 

But that still doesn't change the fact that we are soon going to have many of these in our local amateur racing bunches (esp. vets) and we won't have any clue because there is no way the race organisers are going to be able to police this issue.

 

So if you're not talented enough or fit enough, you can still crush the field if you're wealthy enough.

 

You have summarised life in just that line  :ph34r:

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