More Rogue Riding on Tygerberg MTB Members Only Trail

[Captain Fastbastard Mayhem]

HONEST QUESTION:

 

Let's say they get ID'ed or caught in the act, what are the available steps to follow from there? Steps 1 - 10 or how many ever there are.

It'd be up to the farm owner, but technically it'd be trespassing, and prosecutable as such. 

 

Then from a club / event perspective, a potential ban from events as well as future entry to the trails (this is independent of the trespassing charge) Yes, it's gone that far before and there's more support for it from most of the stakeholders. 

 

On our side, potential loss of trail infrastructure (happened in the past) 

[Captain Fastbastard Mayhem]

looks like the film crew of strava segment hunter gang

They're in a lekker hoek(ie) at the moment, so not them. 

[Pure Savage]

The oke cannot even afford a shirt and you want him to buy a membership!

[Shebeen]

HONEST QUESTION:

 

Let's say they get ID'ed or caught in the act, what are the available steps to follow from there? Steps 1 - 10 or how many ever there are.

 

You do the 2016 equivalent of a public lashing (internet name and shame).

[Skubarra]

 

In the end I had so much fun that I wound up on the trails to sample the bike on some single track. Rode all of 5km on the trail before popping out to ride back home. 1 Because I wasn't planning to do a long ride and 2) I wasn't sporting my permit. 

 

So when you are just having a lot of fun and weren't really planning a long ride it really is ok to do a bit of rogue riding and people policing the trails should be nice to you?

 

I get you, rules are really more like guidelines and can be ignored if it is an inconvenience. 

 

Doesn't take a genius to see why you and Karl aren't exactly seeing eye-to-eye on this matter...

[Eugene Oppelt]

looks like the film crew of strava segment hunter gang

True true

Hehehe

[Eugene Oppelt]

Looks a bit like Andydude

The dude that had his shirt ripped off while jumping the fence ????

[KarlvN]

Maybe knowing a bit more about the story would help me see your side. Please elaborate a bit.

 

You see, I have no idea where this happened and I can easily imaging these two guys being tourists that wandered in from a farm gate somewhere. Like you said, they weren't sticking to the trails. Did they jump the fence in an attempt to get away from someone trying to approach them or is this speculation? If they had to pass through a gate somewhere could it be that a member forgot to lock the gate? too many unanswered questions in this whole thing for me to be getting my knickers in knot just yet. 

 

As posted on the club's FB page, by members;

 

[Rock Guy]

So when you are just having a lot of fun and weren't really planning a long ride it really is ok to do a bit of rogue riding and people policing the trails should be nice to you?

 

I get you, rules are really more like guidelines and can be ignored if it is an inconvenience. 

 

Doesn't take a genius to see why you and Karl aren't exactly seeing eye-to-eye on this matter...

I think you're missing Iwan's point Skubarra. He know's what he did was wrong, he was trying to show you that there is more than one way to address someone if they do something wrong. A) you can be a grumpy guy that leaves you with a bad memory and no will to improve your behavior, or B) you can be a cool dude that points out that you were doing something wrong, but by way of example makes you want to be a better person.

[MTBeer]

I think you're missing Iwan's point Skubarra. He know's what he did was wrong, he was trying to show you that there is more than one way to address someone if they do something wrong. A) you can be a grumpy guy that leaves you with a bad memory and no will to improve your behavior, or B) you can be a cool dude that points out that you were doing something wrong, but by way of example makes you want to be a better person.

but he did it anyway.

[MTBeer]

So when you are just having a lot of fun and weren't really planning a long ride it really is ok to do a bit of rogue riding and people policing the trails should be nice to you?

 

I get you, rules are really more like guidelines and can be ignored if it is an inconvenience. 

 

Doesn't take a genius to see why you and Karl aren't exactly seeing eye-to-eye on this matter...

it's the standard South African response when a rule/law is broken - " I broke the law because (insert your particular circumstance which makes your needs more important than the common good)"

 

Or the other SA response is whataboutery - as in "yes but what about taxis/murder/rape/etc"

[Rock Guy]

As posted on the club's FB page, by members;

 

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Well, now that certainly changes things. Although I am admittedly annoyed at your initial omission of this information I will agree that they were clearly in the wrong. Please proceed to prosecute them accordingly.

[Skubarra]

but he did it anyway.

 

This ^^^

 

Maybe if had run into mr (A) his feelings would have been hurt and he would have been p^&ed off but next time he is out there having fun with his e-bike he might think it is not worth the hassle to risk being caught rogue riding?

[Popit]

I believe someone saw the parachute in. So quite possible they missed the Members Only sign.

 

True story - you can see there parachute bags on their back

ROTFL

[Rock Guy]

but he did it anyway.

Are you Skubarra's echo?

[KarlvN]

Well, now that certainly changes things. Although I am admittedly annoyed at your initial omission of this information I will agree that they were clearly in the wrong. Please proceed to prosecute them accordingly.

 

Did not at first notice this info. Only when I read the entire post. But I agree, it would have helped.