V12man Posted December 4, 2016 Share Depends if there was any pushing or pulling of the woman involved - if that was present then a protest should be logged if it was an individual race category nonky, Spoke101 and Pure Savage 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor Buttox Posted December 4, 2016 Share It makes a huge difference. I often ride with a female friend and provide a bit of extra help and inspiration. It takes about 5min off her time on a 55min segment at 24/5kph on a MTB. And yes, a lot of it is the mental side and the encouragement. Probably won't make a big difference in the technical stuff though. Edited December 4, 2016 by Thor Buttox andydude 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VicanZA Posted December 4, 2016 Share With most MTB races having long flat district roads it's a huge advantage, have seen it been done lots of times. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gen Posted December 4, 2016 Share Mmm.. this is a tricky one.. in the beginning hubby used to ride with me and on the technical bits in front of me, it helped me learn a lot seeing what line he would take and that does Def make you faster.. and yeah in the beginning it helps a lot with motivation.. I however was and never will be riding for podium.  We don't ride races together anymore unless it is a stage race of course.. then he has no choice but to ride with me.. also I don't really do races anymore either. I don't think it's on when it comes to racing for podium.. also why I am glad the epic has changed the rules regarding the ladies race, they have their own start group and no interference by the men are allowed. BUT I don't think it is a problem further down the field. Edited December 4, 2016 by Gen TALUS, Patchelicious, intern and 2 others 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pulse Posted December 4, 2016 Share I'm not sure how much benifit wheel sucking on an mtb generates in terms of aerodynamics. If memory serves you only benifit if you're cursing at 35-40km/h minimum.The last scientific article I read on this (has been a while), showed benefits of around 10% from speeds above 18km/h. If there is a descent head wind... Formallyknownas and Gen 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gen Posted December 4, 2016 Share The last scientific article I read on this (has been a while), showed benefits of around 10% from speeds above 18km/h. If there is a descent head wind...Ja it helps a lot having someone larger than you blocking the wind for you[emoji39]  Although lately hubby sits behind me when there is a headwind..something about me having to learn to deal with the wind myself[emoji23] [emoji23] [emoji23] [emoji23] Pulse 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gogo@ Posted December 4, 2016 Share I don't think it's on when it comes to racing for podium.. also why I am glad the epic has changed the rules regarding the ladies race, they have their own start group and no interference by the men are allowed. BUT I don't think it is a problem further down the field.Agreed, mostly!Just... when you've given every little bit of blood, sweat and screaming tears for 95 kays and with 5 to go, a couple sails past, guy pushing girl all the way, to beat you, to position 9 998, you might get a bit miffed, if not for long. You might soon forget, but the miffy smell stays miffy! Gen 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gen Posted December 4, 2016 Share Agreed, mostly!Just... when you've given every little bit of blood, sweat and screaming tears for 95 kays and with 5 to go, a couple sails past, guy pushing girl all the way, to beat you, to position 9 998, you might get a bit miffed, if not for long. You might soon forget, but the miffy smell stays miffy![emoji23] [emoji23] [emoji23] Â You should grab on as they sail past man.. don't miss those opportunities[emoji6] gogo@ and L46 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCD Posted December 4, 2016 Share Simple: Race your MTB like it is meant to be. You versus your opponent, whatever gender. Any outside help is rubbish, whether there is a formal rule for it or not... what a discussion... Oufy MTB (Roadie), Myth and NixM 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gogo@ Posted December 4, 2016 Share [emoji23] [emoji23] [emoji23] Â You should grab on as they sail past man.. don't miss those opportunities[emoji6]???? Oh boy!! I'll just say you said ???? Gen 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor Buttox Posted December 4, 2016 Share Agreed, mostly!Just... when you've given every little bit of blood, sweat and screaming tears for 95 kays and with 5 to go, a couple sails past, guy pushing girl all the way, to beat you, to position 9 998, you might get a bit miffed, if not for long. You might soon forget, but the miffy smell stays miffy!That is a very different type of wind that smells miffy? If the lady behind has to deal with that... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gogo@ Posted December 4, 2016 Share That is a very different type of wind that smells miffy? If the lady behind has to deal with that...Probably all us "has (never) beans" riding at the back!! Joe Low 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
corriekuilder Posted December 4, 2016 Share My wife and I did a mtb race recently. In the ladies category, one of the podium contenders's husband rode with her the whole race and she could just sit behind him riding slip all the way. My wife also got podium. She said she does not think she would have beaten the other girl if her husband was not there but she kind off settled for the minor positions knowing she is not going to beat this couple working together. During prize giving they also won a catagory created for first couple in so the race organisers did not see any issue with it. So my question is should men be allowed to "support" female podium contenders? Just asking, did you and your wife ride together as well, or did you race/ride seperately? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Low Posted December 4, 2016 Share I'm not sure how much benifit wheel sucking on an mtb generates in terms of aerodynamics. If memory serves you only benifit if you're cursing at 35-40km/h minimum. Kmh or words per minute? And slipstreaming is effective at much lower speeds, and any speed if there is a headwind. Patchelicious 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJ the Expat Posted December 4, 2016 Share Just asking, did you and your wife ride together as well, or did you race/ride seperately?No, we always race separately. That way, we share different stories! I love listening to her thoughts and experiences of her own race. We do train together over weekends.During the week we both do our own thing as far as training goes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TALUS Posted December 4, 2016 Share Whatever the technicalities regarding the rules are, this does not feel like it is the spirit of what we do. Pulse, DJR, Mads and 6 others 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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