_im_from_earth Posted January 6, 2017 Posted January 6, 2017 Haha has Santa's 650B changed your mind from only believing in 29ers.Thats a difficult one... this is my first 650B, and to be fair I'm super unfit and have only had 5 very short rides. I can tell you that it is incredibly surprising. Light, nimble, lively. The riding style, strengths and position are so completely different to a 29", especially something like the Wreckoning that just destroys anything you put in front of it. I think (for me anyway) you get lazy on a 29", its like free speed, as long as you stay off the brakes you don't really have to work the bike, it maintains its speed so well. The 650B on the other hand requires constant rider feedback, which sounds like a negative thing, but the catch is that it rewards you so greatly for it, that provided you have the fitness and strength to be "physical" all the time, I think it can be incredibly quick (and fun). I just need to build some serious strength endurance, and learn how to ride the small wheels. Maybe 26" for 2018... Christofison, Bizkit031, hayleyearth and 2 others 5
Bizkit031 Posted January 6, 2017 Posted January 6, 2017 Thats a difficult one... this is my first 650B, and to be fair I'm super unfit and have only had 5 very short rides. I can tell you that it is incredibly surprising. Light, nimble, lively. The riding style, strengths and position are so completely different to a 29", especially something like the Wreckoning that just destroys anything you put in front of it. I think (for me anyway) you get lazy on a 29", its like free speed, as long as you stay off the brakes you don't really have to work the bike, it maintains its speed so well. The 650B on the other hand requires constant rider feedback, which sounds like a negative thing, but the catch is that it rewards you so greatly for it, that provided you have the fitness and strength to be "physical" all the time, I think it can be incredibly quick (and fun). I just need to build some serious strength endurance, and learn how to ride the small wheels. Maybe 26" for 2018... Yea fitness always help,I think there is a lot of us in the same boat after the festive season. Yea the 650B is more fun and you can't steam roll everything like the Wreckoning you have to pick your lines. Well done with the Santa Cruz appointment now you need to get fit for the KZN Enduro series.
hayleyearth Posted January 18, 2017 Posted January 18, 2017 Thats a difficult one... this is my first 650B, and to be fair I'm super unfit and have only had 5 very short rides. I can tell you that it is incredibly surprising. Light, nimble, lively. The riding style, strengths and position are so completely different to a 29", especially something like the Wreckoning that just destroys anything you put in front of it. I think (for me anyway) you get lazy on a 29", its like free speed, as long as you stay off the brakes you don't really have to work the bike, it maintains its speed so well. The 650B on the other hand requires constant rider feedback, which sounds like a negative thing, but the catch is that it rewards you so greatly for it, that provided you have the fitness and strength to be "physical" all the time, I think it can be incredibly quick (and fun). I just need to build some serious strength endurance, and learn how to ride the small wheels. Maybe 26" for 2018... There is a quick answer to your "unfit" problem.......get on a road bike and on the road... #justsaying
_im_from_earth Posted January 18, 2017 Posted January 18, 2017 There is a quick answer to your "unfit" problem.......get on a road bike and on the road... #justsaying Roadbike?!?! Pffffft!! Stigmata is coming Danger Dassie and Baaisikilist 2
Slowbee Posted January 18, 2017 Posted January 18, 2017 so Mr Earth ...... ummmm any chance on a long term test for a 650b model. To maybe say do the Munga 2017, with possibly Sani2C as the in betweener to make sure everything is solid? prrrrreeeetttttttttttttttyyyyyy pls !
Slowbee Posted January 18, 2017 Posted January 18, 2017 Ok Mr Earth, your silence drives a hard bargain. You dont like the 650b. So make it a 29er instead. Will that be ok ?
Iwan Kemp Posted January 18, 2017 Posted January 18, 2017 Ok Mr Earth, your silence drives a hard bargain. You dont like the 650b. So make it a 29er instead. Will that be ok ? Hi Freebee, ag I mean Slowbee, stand in line! Slowbee and GLuvsMtb 2
Slowbee Posted January 18, 2017 Posted January 18, 2017 Hi Freebee, ag I mean Slowbee, stand in line! uuuhum, you already posted your 2017 line up. Some of us still need to test some bikes for our 2017 lineups #feelinghopefull
Baaisikilist Posted January 18, 2017 Posted January 18, 2017 I'm really hoping that with this more focused foray into the marathon crazy S.A market, there are plans to release an XC/Marathon oriented, steeper geometried full suss bike to rival the likes of the S-Works Epics etc. After the Tallboy 3 went a bit slacker now, I'm left wondering what to buy after my TB2, which I've done my best to get to be as sharp and "twitchy" as my Highball... Lands250 1
V12man Posted January 18, 2017 Posted January 18, 2017 I'm really hoping that with this more focused foray into the marathon crazy S.A market, there are plans to release an XC/Marathon oriented, steeper geometried full suss bike to rival the likes of the S-Works Epics etc. After the Tallboy 3 went a bit slacker now, I'm left wondering what to buy after my TB2, which I've done my best to get to be as sharp and "twitchy" as my Highball...There are plans for a dual bottle cage in the triangle short travel 29er... trust me on this.... and I am sure I will take one out for a test as soon as they hit SA - but I doubt it will be in the next couple of months - perhaps towards year end or early next year
jcza Posted January 18, 2017 Posted January 18, 2017 I'm really hoping that with this more focused foray into the marathon crazy S.A market, there are plans to release an XC/Marathon oriented, steeper geometried full suss bike to rival the likes of the S-Works Epics etc. After the Tallboy 3 went a bit slacker now, I'm left wondering what to buy after my TB2, which I've done my best to get to be as sharp and "twitchy" as my Highball... The answer is a Scalpel, thank me later. PS: Sorry for the highjack
_im_from_earth Posted January 18, 2017 Posted January 18, 2017 I'm really hoping that with this more focused foray into the marathon crazy S.A market, there are plans to release an XC/Marathon oriented, steeper geometried full suss bike to rival the likes of the S-Works Epics etc. After the Tallboy 3 went a bit slacker now, I'm left wondering what to buy after my TB2, which I've done my best to get to be as sharp and "twitchy" as my Highball...Don't underestimate longer, lower and slacker for marathon... test one (properly) before you cast your final judgement on that one. The "perception" of feeling slower on the trail may actually surprise you in cold hard facts. Not to say that there isn't room for improvement or expansion in the product range Captain Fastbastard Mayhem 1
BenReaper Posted January 18, 2017 Posted January 18, 2017 Personally I feel that the slacker trail geometry of the previous and new models of Tallboy are more suitable for probably 80% of South African mtb'ers. But as everyone knows we are a marathon obsessed nation and everybody thinks they are a 'sharper' , 'racier' Christoph Sauser Specializes S-Works type rider whereas we are actually more like the 'slacker', 'more relaxed' John Smith Santa Cruz Tallboy type riders. But maybe thats just me...... JXV 1
TheOldCootBiker Posted January 18, 2017 Posted January 18, 2017 (edited) There are plans for a dual bottle cage in the triangle short travel 29er... trust me on this.... and I am sure I will take one out for a test as soon as they hit SA - but I doubt it will be in the next couple of months - perhaps towards year end or early next yearHow do you know? ;-) Edited January 19, 2017 by TheOldCootBiker
hayleyearth Posted January 18, 2017 Posted January 18, 2017 Roadbike?!?! Pffffft!! Stigmata is coming THAT IS JUST UNFAIR!I am avoiding your posts in the near future! I am buying a boat , I cant afford a Stigmata also this year!It's on my bike desire list though!
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