Eldron Posted April 2, 2017 Posted April 2, 2017 Joberg2c - half the price - twice the fun. I will probably do another Joberg2c - norra fark will I ride the Epic again.
DIPSLICK Posted April 2, 2017 Posted April 2, 2017 Joberg2c - half the price - twice the fun. I will probably do another Joberg2c - norra fark will I ride the Epic again.Plus whan on the joberg2c,,,never done an epic have no intention of doing it
Eldron Posted April 2, 2017 Posted April 2, 2017 Plus whan on the joberg2c,,,never done an epic have no intention of doing itThat Joberg2c will never be forgotten :-) I had an awesome epic with an awesome partner and amazing support crew. That more than made up for what the epic organisers call a route. I had infinitely more fun when I spent like R12k to fly to Cape Town, hire a car and ride as many bike parks as I could in 12 days.
sometime Posted April 3, 2017 Posted April 3, 2017 Wadawadawada - stop moaning about people moaning. Your're the worst form of cry baby. its always the same people who pop up and miss the point and start shooting arrows at the messengers and making apologies for greedy race organizers, bike companies and others, I mean FFS, imagine if we all said nothing when Zuma fks us over. Same thing an a different scale. How was your ACE this year BTW? You didn't just compare how Zuma runs this country to a race organiser whose product is in demand in just about every corner of the world did you? Greedy business people; race organisers, manufacturers and others wanting to make money for themselves - imagine that. Do you work out of the goodness of your heart or do you expect/hope/plan to get paid as much as possible for the work/service you provide? That's a rhetorical question BTW. I don't apologise for anyone. They do what they do. You might not like it but if enough people do then they're doing something right. I have no ideas what my ACE is? For the record I rode Epic on my own money 4 years ago. Loved it but decided it offered poor bang for buck and wouldn't ride it again with my own money. I rode the race this year fully-sponsored and loved it again but it just reinforced my conviction that I would not do the Epic with my own money. Tankwa Trek is a superior race in every respect. Joberg2C is far more enjoyable; 3 Towers is way more fun etc etc
Duane_Bosch Posted April 3, 2017 Posted April 3, 2017 Speaking of Epic trips. Are any of you keen for well priced accommodation in Morzine this summer? I have a mate who's rented a house literally 15m from one of the main lifts in Morz. Dates are 1-7 July. This trip is for Roadies as well as MTBer's. I'll most likely be there with my MTB but will be renting a roadie for 3 days.
Zariuss Posted April 3, 2017 Posted April 3, 2017 Hotels or camper vans mostlyAnyone can sleep in hotels or camper vans if they pay for it.Remember that the Pro's Sponsors also fork out a lot of money for these things.
V12man Posted April 3, 2017 Posted April 3, 2017 Anyone can sleep in hotels or camper vans if they pay for it.Remember that the Pro's Sponsors also fork out a lot of money for these things.That's true - all the CE does is provide a parking spot - and you have to provide driver, van etc
ChunkyMonkey Posted April 3, 2017 Posted April 3, 2017 Hey all.. just to clarify..The video shows sponsor delegates attending and evening dinner, the same thing happens at every town the race passes through... its a thank you from race management for the sponsors/ town involvement (tolerance) for the event. All these people are very keenly involved, even if not riding..This video shows no " pro rider" getting preferential treatment/ better food above what he calls "Normal riders"...? The video shows sponsor delegates...pro riders often don't even dine in the tent, their soigneurs prepare meals for them in a camper... their sponsors pay more for all these benefits... YES!! They also race harder , THAN " normal riders" Simple solution here..if you prefer good food, and pro treatment...Stop being a "Normal rider"... Just become a "Pro... mtbker" Now!! Get back to work!!!
V12man Posted April 3, 2017 Posted April 3, 2017 Hey all.. just to clarify..The video shows sponsor delegates attending and evening dinner, the same thing happens at every town the race passes through... its a thank you from race management for the sponsors/ town involvement (tolerance) for the event. All these people are very keenly involved, even if not riding..This video shows no " pro rider" getting preferential treatment/ better food above what he calls "Normal riders"...? The video shows sponsor delegates...pro riders often don't even dine in the tent, their soigneurs prepare meals for them in a camper... their sponsors pay more for all these benefits... YES!!They also race harder , THAN " normal riders" Simple solution here..if you prefer good food, and pro treatment...Stop being a "Normal rider"... Just become a "Pro... mtbker" Now!! Get back to work!!!I don't think that's 100% correct - plenty of pro's sit at those tables - whether they eat there or not I don't know. As a "normal" rider - you cannot get a soft drink at dinner - they sell wine and beer at the entrance (and it's not always available) but soft drinks are not available - and NEITHER IS ICE or COLD WATER - unless you sit at a sponsors table.
Duane_Bosch Posted April 3, 2017 Posted April 3, 2017 Costing for a trip to a European bike park looks something like this if you go it alone. And I'm going big. If you shop around and you time it right you can get plane tickets for much cheaper. Eating out is expensive and so are trips to the bar. Plane Ticket 14000Airport Shuttle 80 Euro 1200Catered Accommodation, Breakfast & Dinner 45 pounds a night * 10 800010 day lift pass 2500Visa 1200travel insurance 1200lunch out on the trails 2500A nice new kit 1500getting wasted every night on supermarket beers 1000 33100 And yet the Epic sells out in seconds. For trails that you can ride pretty much any time of the year. At the driest, brownest, dustiest time of year. Having said that I've never done it so who am I to argue the appeal?
Slowbee Posted April 3, 2017 Posted April 3, 2017 Costing for a trip to a European bike park looks something like this if you go it alone. And I'm going big. If you shop around and you time it right you can get plane tickets for much cheaper. Eating out is expensive and so are trips to the bar. Plane Ticket 14000Airport Shuttle 80 Euro 1200Catered Accommodation, Breakfast & Dinner 45 pounds a night * 10 800010 day lift pass 2500Visa 1200travel insurance 1200lunch out on the trails 2500A nice new kit 1500getting wasted every night on supermarket beers 1000 33100 And yet the Epic sells out in seconds. For trails that you can ride pretty much any time of the year. At the driest, brownest, dustiest time of year. Having said that I've never done it so who am I to argue the appeal?paying the wife to babysit ......priceless.
BigDL Posted April 3, 2017 Posted April 3, 2017 From what the experienced people are saying, it would seem that a campervan and your own food would go a long way towards making the experience more comfortable. Would you pay the money to enter plus the extra just to be comfortable? That's your choice. I would if I could spare it but would have to look past perceived value for money and treat it as a once off experience whereby the cost is not the measure.
Serious Panda Posted April 3, 2017 Posted April 3, 2017 Costing for a trip to a European bike park looks something like this if you go it alone. And I'm going big. If you shop around and you time it right you can get plane tickets for much cheaper. Eating out is expensive and so are trips to the bar. Plane Ticket 14000Airport Shuttle 80 Euro 1200Catered Accommodation, Breakfast & Dinner 45 pounds a night * 10 800010 day lift pass 2500Visa 1200travel insurance 1200lunch out on the trails 2500A nice new kit 1500getting wasted every night on supermarket beers 1000 33100 And yet the Epic sells out in seconds. For trails that you can ride pretty much any time of the year. At the driest, brownest, dustiest time of year. Having said that I've never done it so who am I to argue the appeal? R33100 but not for long, the Zuma impact will up that figure rapidly now,
Duane_Bosch Posted April 3, 2017 Posted April 3, 2017 paying the wife to babysit ......priceless.My vroulief came with last year and took her cooking inspiration from French cuisine. The cost of her ticket was WELL worth it.
ChunkyMonkey Posted April 3, 2017 Posted April 3, 2017 I don't think that's 100% correct - plenty of pro's sit at those tables - whether they eat there or not I don't know. As a "normal" rider - you cannot get a soft drink at dinner - they sell wine and beer at the entrance (and it's not always available) but soft drinks are not available - and NEITHER IS ICE or COLD WATER - unless you sit at a sponsors table.Yes V12 man you are correct...A lot of the "pros "do eat in the tent.... and a lot don'tThe pros that do eat in the tent, can just like you ... also not get a cold drink a beer or ice The confusion here is about, Who the sponsors are...These are the corporates that sponsor the race to whatever extend they are involved, And not the sponsors of pro teams... who get preferred treatment..As stated before! Chunky out!
V12man Posted April 3, 2017 Posted April 3, 2017 Costing for a trip to a European bike park looks something like this if you go it alone. And I'm going big. If you shop around and you time it right you can get plane tickets for much cheaper. Eating out is expensive and so are trips to the bar. Plane Ticket 14000Airport Shuttle 80 Euro 1200Catered Accommodation, Breakfast & Dinner 45 pounds a night * 10 800010 day lift pass 2500Visa 1200travel insurance 1200lunch out on the trails 2500A nice new kit 1500getting wasted every night on supermarket beers 1000 33100 And yet the Epic sells out in seconds. For trails that you can ride pretty much any time of the year. At the driest, brownest, dustiest time of year. Having said that I've never done it so who am I to argue the appeal?Give it a go - you will both love it and hate it....
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