Skubarra Posted October 3, 2018 Posted October 3, 2018 I wonder if KE also received a fine & suspension? I guess CSA is not on board on the DieselnDust - "it's just a fun ride not a race" - ticket. But for the rest I agree with D&D - CSA has warned a few times that they might do this, no point in having the rule if they don't enforce it. Also possible that UCI might be on their case if they don't enforce the rules, I imagine this is a UCI rule as well.
DJR Posted October 3, 2018 Posted October 3, 2018 Oh, I think this is just CSA shooting itself in the front tyre.
Eldron Posted October 3, 2018 Posted October 3, 2018 Does anyone know why the rule is in place? I can't think of a valid reason why for it...
Gen Posted October 3, 2018 Posted October 3, 2018 Does anyone know why the rule is in place? I can't think of a valid reason why for it...UCI rule. Sometimes enforced.. most times not CSA are desperate for more events to be sanctioned that is why they are enforcing the rule IMO.
Eldron Posted October 3, 2018 Posted October 3, 2018 UCI rule.Yup but I can't think why it would be in place other than some kind of protectionism. Hmmmm maybe it's designed to allow non pro riders a space to showcase their talents. That would make sense to me. Pros mopping up church bizarre races stifles growth.
milky4130 Posted October 3, 2018 Posted October 3, 2018 So I'm interested to know how many of the Top 5 men got fined? Besides Nicky Gilomee, her post is currently going viral on Social Media, who else?
gogo@ Posted October 3, 2018 Posted October 3, 2018 Oh, I think this is just CSA shooting itself in the front tyre.
gogo@ Posted October 3, 2018 Posted October 3, 2018 Is this the first event where this fine is enforced? Happened anywhere else?
Tankman Posted October 3, 2018 Posted October 3, 2018 I wonder if KE also received a fine & suspension? I guess CSA is not on board on the DieselnDust - "it's just a fun ride not a race" - ticket. But for the rest I agree with D&D - CSA has warned a few times that they might do this, no point in having the rule if they don't enforce it. Also possible that UCI might be on their case if they don't enforce the rules, I imagine this is a UCI rule as well. Not sure if a suspension is going to have an effect on Kevin.He is still banned until March 2019, unless they extend the ban with a month. Technically they cant fine him. He does not hold a full CSA license, that would have been revoked in 2015 when serving him the ban. If a banned athlete gets permission from the organizers to ride/race in a non-sanctioned event, that decision lies with the organizers and there is not much CSA can do about that.
Jarred Posted October 3, 2018 Posted October 3, 2018 UCI rule. Sometimes enforced.. most times not CSA are desperate for more events to be sanctioned that is why they are enforcing the rule IMO.CSA are desperate for money
Pure Savage Posted October 3, 2018 Posted October 3, 2018 UCI rule. Sometimes enforced.. most times not CSA are desperate for more events to be sanctioned that is why they are enforcing the rule IMO.What are they going to do? not going to stop you racing
Skubarra Posted October 3, 2018 Posted October 3, 2018 Not sure if a suspension is going to have an effect on Kevin.He is still banned until March 2019, unless they extend the ban with a month. Technically they cant fine him. He does not hold a full CSA license, that would have been revoked in 2015 when serving him the ban. If a banned athlete gets permission from the organizers to ride/race in a non-sanctioned event, that decision lies with the organizers and there is not much CSA can do about that. Kind of ironic if there are repercussions for licensed athletes but not for already suspended athletes, I would think it is a further violation but I imagine the rules would not go into that much detail.
Milkman Posted October 3, 2018 Posted October 3, 2018 Is this the first event where this fine is enforced? Happened anywhere else? I know some licensed riders that got a warning when they did the Juma race .
Skubarra Posted October 3, 2018 Posted October 3, 2018 What are they going to do? not going to stop you racing But you and me are not licensed riders? Can get messy for licensed riders and I would imagine that at least some organisers would not want their entrants to get into trouble
Pure Savage Posted October 3, 2018 Posted October 3, 2018 But you and me are not licensed riders? Can get messy for licensed riders and I would imagine that at least some organisers would not want their entrants to get into troubleIn $ start for CTCT, you require to be licensed apparently... not that CSA does anything about it or checking if in fact licensed. In all honesty, as an SA pro you dont make money from the podium, you make money by just being at the event etc... If you dont get a time etc because of CSA no worries. In fact, CSA 'fining' Nicky above has brought her more exposure than winning the race itself.
ians H2Sport Posted October 3, 2018 Posted October 3, 2018 Does anyone know why the rule is in place? I can't think of a valid reason why for it...It is to 'encourage' race organizers to get their events sanctioned. CSA has been criticized in the past for not enforcing this rule, seems they are now taking action. Sanctioning of events provides some revenue for CSA and for the province. Without this revenue, very little can be done to support the sport. I am not trying to open debate about what CSA, or the provinces do with this revenue. KZN MTB race organizers have been particularly good at getting their events sanctioned, as such KZN Cycling does receive much needed revenue and is able to effectively support the sport in the province. Needless to say, KZN Cycling has great working relationships with local race organizers.
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