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[Jewbacca]

Interesting statement, considering the top of the range race model came with a 150 from YT. Maybe if you also upgraded your shock to something more capable to balance out the fork it would have felt better. 160 would be too much for this frame I agree but 150 is within YT’s recommended travel range.

 

I don’t think you can make a blanket statement that anything other than 140/140 “feels junk”. Would be beneficial to this discussion if you would elaborate on what exactly felt so horrible as I doubt 10mm could take your bike from great to “junk”, lol.

 

But it all depends on rider preference I suppose. These upgrades feel unbelievable in my opinion and that’s not me just trying to justify my purchase, I could very easily swap it back to a 140 but there’s no way that’s going to happen.

 

I spent a lot of time finding a shock with the correct tune for the fork and maybe the new charger damper feels a lot better than when you just switched out the air shaft?

 

Due diligence rarely ends in disappointment in my experience

Well, that is why I said IMHO. Hardly a blanket statement if I'm saying 'in my opinion'.... I am by no means very scientific and it definitely comes down to how you like to ride. The moar fork (with charger) might suit you better than it did me.

 

I had a monarch plus rc3 debonair in MM tune (I played with the tune a lot) running the rear. I felt that gave me the best feel between amazing grip, some fun pop and a good climbing platform. That part of the bike ripped.

 

I played with the front end quite a bit to see where I could find a sweet spot. I had the RCT3 Debonair Pike. I based my 'feel' on a few decent days out at Jonkers, how it felt on the Canaries, Iron monkey and Plumber and what it did at speed and climbing. 

 

160 was junk. It felt unbalanced, so I snuck the 150 in. Played with some volume spacers etc and while it obviously fely better that at 160, no matter what I did I still felt like the bike was 'off'. I fiddled for a while.

 

O dropped to 140, slotted 1.5 volume spacers in and BOOM! Suddenly it just 'felt' right out the car. More balanced on the climbs, better balance in the pre-load, better grip.. It even felt more committed in the steeps. Dunno, maybe a ramp control jobby would have made the 150 better, but it just wasn't working for me.

 

For me, what makes Jeffsy so rad is that it does everything 'well' and feels really fun. Adding more fork took that feeling away

[Johnny Lawless]

Well, that is why I said IMHO. Hardly a blanket statement if I'm saying 'in my opinion'....

 

I had a monarch plus rc3 debonair in MM tune (I played with the tune a lot) running the rear. I felt that gave me the best feel between amazing grip, some fun pop and a good climbing platform. That part of the bike ripped.

 

I played with the front end quite a bit to see where I could find a sweet spot. I had the RCT3 Debonair Pike. I based my 'feel' on a few decent days out at Jonkers, how it felt on the Canaries, Iron monkey and Plumber and what it did at speed and climbing.

 

160 was junk. It felt unbalanced, so I snuck the 150 in. Played with some volume spacers etc and while it obviously fely better that at 160, no matter what I did I still felt like the bike was 'off'. I fiddled for a while.

 

O dropped to 140, slotted 1.5 volume spacers in and BOOM! Suddenly it just 'felt' right out the car. More balanced on the climbs, better balance in the pre-load, better grip.. It even felt more committed in the steeps. Dunno, maybe a ramp control jobby would have made the 150 better, but it just wasn't working for me.

 

For me, what makes Jeffsy so rad is that it does everything 'well' and feels really fun. Adding more fork took that feeling away

See now this is much more usable feedback...even though you are completely wrong, lol.

[Jewbacca]

See now this is much more usable feedback...even though you are completely wrong, lol.

How can an opinion be wrong?

[Johnny Lawless]

How can an opinion be wrong?

Would italics have helped? Relax bud, it was rather obviously meant as a joke

[Jewbacca]

Would italics have helped? Relax bud, it was rather obviously meant as a joke

Sorry... With the last few weeks under my belt I'm probably a bit quick to assume the worst! hahaha

 

You are 100% right about the rear end though... Once you get that right the bike goes from Prince Adam to He-Man...

[RiverInTheRoad]

My 2c:

 

I had a 2016 Specialized Camber (120mm/120mm 29er). I bought a 140mm Fox 34, amazing fork, ruined the bikes handling, LOL. I couldn't get the fork to work with the rear shock - keep in mind I am a noob. Got a 120mm air-spring for the Fox 34 and then it was absolutely amazing.

 

Less is more sometimes. 

 

PS: I had a Jeffys and think 150mm would work fine, I think 140mm would be better though as my Jeffsy felt like it collapsed into the rear travel when climbing. My bike was slightly too small for me though.

[Jewbacca]

My 2c:

 

I had a 2016 Specialized Camber (120mm/120mm 29er). I bought a 140mm Fox 34, amazing fork, ruined the bikes handling, LOL. I couldn't get the fork to work with the rear shock - keep in mind I am a noob. Got a 120mm air-spring for the Fox 34 and then it was absolutely amazing.

 

Less is more sometimes. 

 

PS: I had a Jeffys and think 150mm would work fine, I think 140mm would be better though as my Jeffsy felt like it collapsed into the rear travel when climbing. My bike was slightly too small for me though.

That is a problem with the Jeffsy out the box, especially with the single function Monarch with a basic rebound adjust and no on the fly compression settings.

 

Made worse when guys 'lock out' their fork and the bike basically bends in half under load.

 

@Hairy.... Bro, BaGear is right... That cable tie... I can't sleep....

[Hairy]

please cut that cable tie off your shock body , the hairs in my ear are cringing 

As using it to check the sag ... It is no longer there anymore

[Hairy]

That is a problem with the Jeffsy out the box, especially with the single function Monarch with a basic rebound adjust and no on the fly compression settings.

 

Made worse when guys 'lock out' their fork and the bike basically bends in half under load.

 

@Hairy.... Bro, BaGear is right... That cable tie... I can't sleep....

You bunch of no sleeping, hair raising roadies might be eased to know that the cable tie was very loosely fitted.

[Duane_Bosch]

You bunch of no sleeping, hair raising roadies might be eased to know that the cable tie was very loosely fitted.

The word roadie is no longer an insult brah.

 

When I bought my first road bike AAAALLLLL my burly mtb mates ripped me to shreds about my road bike.

 

Fast forward a few years and all of them have road bikes. All. And they are klapping the kms. Doing group rides. Buying the kit. etc etc etc. Some of them still pretend in that they call their bikes gravel bikes but let's be real here. Gravel bikes are just road bikes with fatter tires.

[Johnny Lawless]

The word roadie is no longer an insult brah.

 

When I bought my first road bike AAAALLLLL my burly mtb mates ripped me to shreds about my road bike.

 

Fast forward a few years and all of them have road bikes. All. And they are klapping the kms. Doing group rides. Buying the kit. etc etc etc. Some of them still pretend in that they call their bikes gravel bikes but let's be real here. Gravel bikes are just road bikes with fatter tires.

 

Does anyone know if I, as the creator of this thread, can block this guy from posting here?   

[Hairy]

Does anyone know if I, as the creator of this thread, can block this guy from posting here? 

Not possible ... he sends all his Hub posts via SA postal services...old school kind of guy!

[Johnny Lawless]

Has anyone gone from a alu to a carbon Jeffsy and was it worth it in any noticeable way? For the sake of the question let's say the move will cost around 5k.

 

I mean: 

> The weight saving is minimal as far as I know

> What about stiffness and how that translates to the riding experience?

> How nice it looks is probably the biggest reason I want it....terrible I know

[PhilipV]

The word roadie is no longer an insult brah.

 

When I bought my first road bike AAAALLLLL my burly mtb mates ripped me to shreds about my road bike.

 

Fast forward a few years and all of them have road bikes. All. And they are klapping the kms. Doing group rides. Buying the kit. etc etc etc. Some of them still pretend in that they call their bikes gravel bikes but let's be real here. Gravel bikes are just road bikes with fatter tires.

I'll hazard a guess that the buying of road bikes came after they turned 30 (or 40) and suddenly found themselves in responsible positions at work and family?

 

 

Ito over forking the jeffsy, I regularly switch my DPA Pike on my Trance between 150 and 160. It climbs like a fat dog at 160, and in less rowdy trails feels better at 150mm. It's only in the steep or big descents and when going hard that it harnesses the 160 properly. If I had to select a single setting I would pick 150mm.

[Johnny Lawless]

I'll hazard a guess that the buying of road bikes came after they turned 30 (or 40) and suddenly found themselves in responsible positions at work and family?

 

 

Ito over forking the jeffsy, I regularly switch my DPA Pike on my Trance between 150 and 160. It climbs like a fat dog at 160, and in less rowdy trails feels better at 150mm. It's only in the steep or big descents and when going hard that it harnesses the 160 properly. If I had to select a single setting I would pick 150mm.

 

Just for context, what travel did the Trance come with from Giant...130mm? If that's the case then 160mm would seriously have screwed up its intended geometry figures. Even 150 might be pushing it a bit or not?

[PhilipV]

Just for context, what travel did the Trance come with from Giant...130mm? If that's the case then 160mm would seriously have screwed up its intended geometry figures. Even 150 might be pushing it a bit or not?

140mm front and back. But the A2C length on the stock 140mm fox32 is only slightly shorter than the Pike at 150.

 

The drawback to over forking a bike is that the seat angle is slackened, and reach is shortened. To compensate I slammed the seat forward, dropped the handlebar by one spacer, and put a 5mm longer stem on (but the 40mm stem I had on was too short with the stock fork as well.)