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Not all purchases are completely 100% practical. If that was the case, we'd all be driving 1992 Nissan Sentras or Toyota Corrollas.

 

If you buy a Golf GTi instead of a Golf TSi or (Polo TSi for that matter) there is a certain level of "wastage" in the purchase. The GTi is more bling, has a better 0-100, higher top speed, nicer finishes, etc., but it costs more to maintain, and lets face it. You don't really NEED that 0-100 or better top speed, now do you?

 

Ignore what people on here say about small totties etc. If you can afford the S-Works and don't mind paying extra, then do so by all means. You won't necessarily have faster or better performances as you will probably hit your limits before either bike hits its limits.

 

*Disclaimer*

I ride a 2013 Stumpy Expert, and upgraded the rims to Carbon rims after I kept on breaking spokes on my Roval alu rims. Apart from replacing worn out components the rest of the bike is still per original spec.

:D  Solid advice. Thanks.

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Expert, upgrade some parts to your own personal preference and get a set of carbon South Industries hoops! :-)

 

PS: I ride a Swerks Epic. Won't make you faster..

 

Won't make you faster  :ph34r:

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... I would like to hear from fellow Hubbers that actually own S-Works models ...

 

"Success makes so many people hate you. I wish it wasn't that way. It would be wonderful to enjoy success without seeing envy in the eyes of those around you". Marilyn Monroe.

 

I had an S-Works Camber and now ride an S-Works Epic. It is also very unlikely that I will ever win any major title and I most certainly don't have the largest tottie...

 

But I did do my homework and 99% of the replies here are either missing the point or plain stupid. Are there better bikes? Probably. And - if you have the cash, one must assume that you can also afford all the silly alternatives being suggested?

 

I love tech stuff, and with the S-Works you get more than "just" the few extra bits mentioned above, like wheels, a better carbon frame and a "few carbon bits". Virtually every component is "better" - as in everything. What is the point in buying a "lesser" bike and then swopping the saddle, the wheels, etc... that is like buying a BMW 320d and fitting other wheels, then believing you have an M car!

 

Fact is, like it or not, that the S-Works is worth the sum of it's parts. Are the parts worth it, that is your choice? For me they are - my bike is fast, reliable, awesome to ride and makes me happy, and...  imitation is the sincerest form of flattery.

 

Remember - no amount of makeup will make a donkey into a racehorse  ;)

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"Success makes so many people hate you. I wish it wasn't that way. It would be wonderful to enjoy success without seeing envy in the eyes of those around you". Marilyn Monroe.

 

I had an S-Works Camber and now ride an S-Works Epic. It is also very unlikely that I will ever win any major title and I most certainly don't have the largest tottie...

 

But I did do my homework and 99% of the replies here are either missing the point or plain stupid. Are there better bikes? Probably. And - if you have the cash, one must assume that you can also afford all the silly alternatives being suggested?

 

I love tech stuff, and with the S-Works you get more than "just" the few extra bits mentioned above, like wheels, a better carbon frame and a "few carbon bits". Virtually every component is "better" - as in everything. What is the point in buying a "lesser" bike and then swopping the saddle, the wheels, etc... that is like buying a BMW 320d and fitting other wheels, then believing you have an M car!

 

Fact is, like it or not, that the S-Works is worth the sum of it's parts. Are the parts worth it, that is your choice? For me they are - my bike is fast, reliable, awesome to ride and makes me happy, and...  imitation is the sincerest form of flattery.

 

Remember - no amount of makeup will make a donkey into a racehorse  ;)

Well said Uncleslow. Do you work for the Big Red S? :P 

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I definitely want to... It's just that the financial manager (a.k.a. my lovely wife) doesn't quite see it that way! She is super happy on her R10k GT Zaskar.

Well she's not going to ride it now is she? Let her continue loving her Geetee.... Hell maybe buy her some new grips to put on it.. (no comic sans font on my phone)

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Well said Uncleslow. Do you work for the Big Red S? :P

 

Nah, I do not. However, all this crap about the S-Works being just a bling marketing upgrade irks me. I am sure other brands have similar halo models, but with my limited experience, Spez has treated me well with good service and a great product.

 

Look at the data. The S-Works have the bits that everyone ultimately wants - suspension, carbon seat and rails, better hubs and bearings, carbon stems and bars, top brakes and shifters, etc, etc... why on earth would you want to save on stuff you then want to replace?

 

And spare me the "do you really need it?" mentality - that is plain... silly.

 

Oh - and more to your point, the Camber is awesome.

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On a trail bike?

 

i wouldn't mind one on my trail bike.  I still pedal my trail bike hard and do the odd long ride/race so I won't mind getting my power stats after a ride.  I get that it won't be as smooth compared to a road bike, but even in an enduro race it would be nice to see your output during short power bursts and it should also help you to manage your effort up the climbs between the timed sections.

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"Success makes so many people hate you. I wish it wasn't that way. It would be wonderful to enjoy success without seeing envy in the eyes of those around you". Marilyn Monroe.

 

I had an S-Works Camber and now ride an S-Works Epic. It is also very unlikely that I will ever win any major title and I most certainly don't have the largest tottie...

 

But I did do my homework and 99% of the replies here are either missing the point or plain stupid. Are there better bikes? Probably. And - if you have the cash, one must assume that you can also afford all the silly alternatives being suggested?

 

I love tech stuff, and with the S-Works you get more than "just" the few extra bits mentioned above, like wheels, a better carbon frame and a "few carbon bits". Virtually every component is "better" - as in everything. What is the point in buying a "lesser" bike and then swopping the saddle, the wheels, etc... that is like buying a BMW 320d and fitting other wheels, then believing you have an M car!

 

Fact is, like it or not, that the S-Works is worth the sum of it's parts. Are the parts worth it, that is your choice? For me they are - my bike is fast, reliable, awesome to ride and makes me happy, and... imitation is the sincerest form of flattery.

 

Remember - no amount of makeup will make a donkey into a racehorse ;)

they got you good! I love the spez okes, they can bring out the best bike ever. But then next year it is obsolete. Every year, without fail.

 

I'm not a car freak, but I'm guessing the m badge on your unique BMW comes with a mega crap load of marketing hype built in too

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Funny, you hardly ever see guys with Sworks dissing those with less expensive bikes. Makes you wonder.

That's because most of them are to busy being pompous pricks. I say most, because there are a number who are exceptions to the rule.

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That's because most of them are to busy being pompous pricks. I say most, because there are a number who are exceptions to the rule.

Shots fired...I believe there is a full thread devoted to this ;)

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Weirdly, it does make sense! I guess it just feels more "special"...?

if you are looking for something special, then surely there are more exotic brands you can consider .................

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Funny, you hardly ever see guys with Sworks dissing those with less expensive bikes. Makes you wonder.

 

Hehehe .... and you get this same pattern in ALL sports .... actually more sad than funny

 

 

 

If memory serves me, you made a post a some time back about "the person" that puts in the extra hours, makes some extra money, and who then spends it on what they enjoy .....  GOOD FOR THEM !

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Funny, you hardly ever see guys with Sworks dissing those with less expensive bikes. Makes you wonder.

Most of them are too old and wealthy and have people who do their interwebs...
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Uncleslow, you are right in saying that the S-Works' value is equal to the sum of its parts. It comes out with the best parts money can buy. The question people are addressing is whether we really need top of the range components on our bikes.

 

If you look for example at the difference between Eagle X0 and XX, it comes down to a small weight difference. The components work exactly the same and will give the rider exactly the same level of enjoyment.

 

By buying the expert or pro model, the buyer can decide which parts he really wants to be top of the range and which ones he is happy to have "mid" level components. Today's X9/X0 or SLX/XT level components works flawlessly anyway with the only real benefit being weight if you go for XTR or XX. We don't race our bikes even remotely close to their limits so if a shifter can shift 2 nanoseconds quicker at double the price will never make a difference...

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