unitlost Posted November 19, 2018 Share Guys im just curious, what times did you okes post on your MTB with knobbies for the 947?Did 4:06 on my hardtail. Did 4:09 for CCMNC on the same bike. Sidersky and Frosty 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thisismyotherbike Posted November 19, 2018 Share For me, the new route was harder, but statistically speaking, it's very similar. 947_Cyclechallange_Bell.png 2016 2017 2018 Mean: 04:16:59 04:24:45 04:16:19 Mode (grouping of 5min): 03:50:00 03:40:00 03:50:00 Variance: 00:03:22 00:03:45 00:02:46 Nice! The mode makes my time feel less special.... It seems participation has been on the decline over this period, do you think that would skew 2018 to the left? Also, what's the effect of the "Heat Plan"? Did those late finishers receive Racetec finish times despite riding a significantly shorter route? (might explain the tighter variance) thats a good point, how have they adjusted figures for those that did the shorter route ? Just had a look at the Strava accounts for a few of the backmarkers. They did around 83km or 87km (depending on phase 1 or 2 of the heat plan I suppose) on the shortened routes but still received finishing times on the Racetec results page. That really messes with the data. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wet Ears Posted November 19, 2018 Share Guys im just curious, what times did you okes post on your MTB with knobbies for the 947?3:46 (dual suss) but I am no racing snake so guessing there are some pretty impressive knobbly times out there - this was last years race though. Edited November 19, 2018 by Wet Ears Rick Sanchez 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hilton_ Posted November 19, 2018 Share Climbing isn't "harder" in the Argus.Main thing that affects finish times is the extra distance: 108ish on Garmin (for practically everyone I know on Strava/rode with) vs 93ish on Garmin for yesterday's exploits (same "methodology")Only three big climbs, sure, but two are in the second half. Top of Suikerbossie is just shy of yesterday's finish distance, with still another 15km to go. Still ±20 minutes riding, even if you're pinning it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MudLark Posted November 19, 2018 Share Climbing isn't "harder" in the Argus.Main thing that affects finish times is the extra distance: 108ish on Garmin (for practically everyone I know on Strava/rode with) vs 93ish on Garmin for yesterday's exploits (same "methodology")Only three big climbs, sure, but two are in the second half. Top of Suikerbossie is just shy of yesterday's finish distance, with still another 15km to go. Still ±20 minutes riding, even if you're pinning it.Sure. I reckon can make that ride pretty tough too though? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pieter-za Posted November 19, 2018 Share Guys im just curious, what times did you okes post on your MTB with knobbies for the 947?3:59:03 (4:00:00 in 2017) Edited November 19, 2018 by Pieter-za Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rudi-h Posted November 19, 2018 Share mixed bags when i try to compare. I enjoyed the fast riding on the M1, but its a way different race. stats are much different and its hard to say if it was harder or easier... 2017: 2h53; average power: 218W / 274NP; avg HR 155; Max 20min: 265W2018: 2h52; average power: 197W / 248NP; avg HR 155; Max 20min: 254W both starts were from C, so the stats suggest a much easier ride in 2018. That said, at some point around hyde park / zoo lake i had a look and my average power was north of 230W and NP was 285ish, so the first half was crazy hard and once you hit the M1 the numbers drop big time coasting in the bunch for 30 odd minutes. i thought i was fitter this year, yet i almost started cramping after kyalami yesterday and my numbers are way lower. how did you guys compare if you look at the effort? Edited November 19, 2018 by rudi-h Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rick Sanchez Posted November 19, 2018 Share Guys im just curious, what times did you okes post on your MTB with knobbies for the 947?I have done a 3:15 on my hardtail a few years ago with Knobblies Saw a guy on Sunday on his Cannondale Scalpel and he finished in under 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frosty Posted November 19, 2018 Share mixed bags when i try to compare. I enjoyed the fast riding on the M1, but its a way different race. stats are much different and its hard to say if it was harder or easier... 2017: 2h53; average power: 218W / 274NP; avg HR 155; Max 20min: 265W2018: 2h52; average power: 197W / 248NP; avg HR 155; Max 20min: 254W both starts were from C, so the stats suggest a much easier ride in 2018. That said, at some point around hyde park / zoo lake i had a look and my average power was north of 230W and NP was 285ish, so the first half was crazy hard and once you hit the M1 the numbers drop big time coasting in the bunch for 30 odd minutes. i thought i was fitter this year, yet i almost started cramping after kyalami yesterday and my numbers are way lower. how did you guys compare if you look at the effort?I thought the new route was harder, given the conditions we rode in. 2017 vs 2018VD vs VC Both years I went into the CC without specifically training for it - just going on my fitness level at the time. Only difference was that I had just over 900Km worth of running since last year’s CC. Same bike, same gear, same weight, same result. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rick Sanchez Posted November 19, 2018 Share By the way, has anyone tried the nutrition samples from NamedSport? Opinions?Used both of mine on race day and I am impressed. zee 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MTB_wannabe Posted November 19, 2018 Share Guys im just curious, what times did you okes post on your MTB with knobbies for the 947? 3:11 from batch E Got a really great pull from a CycleLab group from the old Lion park till Homestead, and then stuck with a large group for large part of the M1 through till Kyalami which helped make that time a reality. Pieter-za 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gnarly Posted November 19, 2018 Share I thought the new route was harder, given the conditions we rode in. 2017 vs 2018VD vs VC Both years I went into the CC without specifically training for it - just going on my fitness level at the time. Only difference was that I had just over 900Km worth of running since last year’s CC. Same bike, same gear, same weight, same result. FTP setting is wrong for two years in a row... Spoke101 and Frosty 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CAAD4 Posted November 19, 2018 Share Well not many complaints about goodie bags, but quite a few about E Bikes. Really? Some take the fun ride world Champs so seriously. Just get on with it man. Do you think people care whether you came 7429th or 7430th??. brumby, Spoke101 and Bat 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frosty Posted November 19, 2018 Share FTP setting is wrong for two years in a row... Do I know? Yes. Do I care? Not really. FTP was set about 5 weeks before the CC, so I guess the training helps. bmw1za 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rudi-h Posted November 19, 2018 Share I thought the new route was harder, given the conditions we rode in. 2017 vs 2018VD vs VC Both years I went into the CC without specifically training for it - just going on my fitness level at the time. Only difference was that I had just over 900Km worth of running since last year’s CC. Same bike, same gear, same weight, same result. interesting... our power numbers are basically reversed. I expected to see a similar decline in avg power and NP due to the M1 factor... Frosty 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frosty Posted November 19, 2018 Share interesting... our power numbers are basically reversed. I expected to see a similar decline in avg power and NP due to the M1 factor...From the top of the M1 after the last bump to the Jukskei river, Ave. power = 113W, NP = 181W (which includes the bump after Grayston). I was digging deep on every climb, until the M1, refusing to give up my position at the back of the small bunch, so that I could enjoy the M1 in a group (out the wind). Paid for it once we turned into Kyalami, as it was a solo ride until Summit Rd. Duration: Ave | NP20-min: 285W | 308W 30-min: 275W | 301W 40-min: 270W | 302W 60-min: 260W | 300W 40Km: 262W | 301W Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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