DieselnDust Posted October 31, 2022 Share So this is the Ivan Glasenberg connection Is the thread name change appropriate at this time? Is it confirmed team Qhubeka is dead Edited October 31, 2022 by DieselnDust Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sid the Sloth Posted October 31, 2022 Share Interesting. My uncle was at school with Doug, and was telling me some stories about their TT’s from SACS to Constantia Nek via Rhodes drive. Wonder who has that KOM now 🧐 DieselnDust 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BMCfan Posted October 31, 2022 Share 15 minutes ago, DieselnDust said: Is the thread name change appropriate at this time? Is it confirmed team Qhubeka is dead I guess Admin split the two threads. MY speculation was if DR is jumping ship, never if Q were dead ... DieselnDust 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrRichard Posted October 31, 2022 Share space for Cavendish? Sid the Sloth, Underachiever and Mopkop 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wayne pudding Mol Posted October 31, 2022 Share 1 hour ago, babse said: Filippo Colombo? But he is young and promising... 🤨 give him a season with Doug and his career will need resuscitation Underachiever, Rowl, Eldron and 2 others 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shebeen Posted October 31, 2022 Share 38 minutes ago, BMCfan said: I guess Admin split the two threads. MY speculation was if DR is jumping ship, never if Q were dead ... 56 minutes ago, DieselnDust said: So this is the Ivan Glasenberg connection Is the thread name change appropriate at this time? Is it confirmed team Qhubeka is dead looks like the old thread is gone. PCS is on it already, even though the only link is DR and maybe some Assos? DieselnDust 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Posted October 31, 2022 Share 1 hour ago, DieselnDust said: Is the thread name change appropriate at this time? Is it confirmed team Qhubeka is dead My bad. I jumped to the conclusion that it was a whole new vibe with the Swiss license. It's easy to merge them again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Posted October 31, 2022 Share 17 minutes ago, Shebeen said: looks like the old thread is gone. The other thread is here: https://forum.bikehub.co.za/topic/177096-all-things-team-qhubeka-nexthash Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shebeen Posted October 31, 2022 Share 24 minutes ago, Nick said: The other thread is here: https://forum.bikehub.co.za/topic/177096-all-things-team-qhubeka-nexthash my apologies. i searched for Qhubeka using the Cavendish misspelling! I guess we see where Nic D goes on that one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Posted October 31, 2022 Share Something I've wondered before; how does a team's succession get decided? It's simple when someone buys a team or their license. Not much detail to go on yet but is Doug (assuming he is not simply a salaried manager acting for the team owner) is applying for the same license or a new one? Is Doug's involvement enough to say that a new team is the same as the old one, even if there is no license continuity? All assuming the current Qhubeka outfit doesn't carry on going. DieselnDust 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shebeen Posted October 31, 2022 Share 3 minutes ago, Nick said: Something I've wondered before; how does a team's succession get decided? It's simple when someone buys a team or their license. Not much detail to go on yet but say, in this case, is Doug (assuming he is not simply a salaried manager acting for the team owner) applying for the same license or a new one? Is Doug's involvement enough to say that a new team is the same as the old one even if completely unrelated license? i would think licence which can be sold. Go look back on the history of this team for instance https://www.procyclingstats.com/team/uae-team-emirates-2022 So this Q365 would be a totally new team in the 2nd tier building up essentially from scratch, unless they buy a pro conti licence. https://www.velonews.com/news/road/doug-ryder-is-quietly-building-a-proteam-for-2023-as-speculation-mounts-surrounding-a-billionaires-backing/ here is the original article which seemed to have broken the story I'm not sure how much room there is left for innovation in cycling equipment, but Glasenberg has money to throw around. they make shoe shoes too it seems https://www.q36-5.com/online/cycling-shoes/road-bike-shoes/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eldron Posted October 31, 2022 Share 26 minutes ago, Nick said: Something I've wondered before; how does a team's succession get decided? It's simple when someone buys a team or their license. Not much detail to go on yet but is Doug (assuming he is not simply a salaried manager acting for the team owner) is applying for the same license or a new one? Is Doug's involvement enough to say that a new team is the same as the old one, even if there is no license continuity? All assuming the current Qhubeka outfit doesn't carry on going. Same questions here... I had assumed Doug would keep his MTNQhubAssosnexthash license and turn it into Q36.5 but I have no idea if his license was cancelled after not making the UCI payment cut off. Anyone else with better intel? DieselnDust 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shebeen Posted October 31, 2022 Share https://www.expatica.com/ch/environment/sw-glencore-life-after-ivan-glasenberg-215995/ doug-ryder-is-quietly-building-a-proteam-for-2023-as-speculation-mounts-surrounding-a-billionaires-backing (1).pdf Nick 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eldron Posted October 31, 2022 Share 1 hour ago, Shebeen said: looks like the old thread is gone. PCS is on it already, even though the only link is DR and maybe some Assos? PCS have a Q36.5 PRO and Conti team "registered" for 2023 which include the results from the MTNQhubeakassoshash series of teams. Current random intel would suggest Q36.5 is the next iteration...MTNDimensionQhubeakassoshashQ36.5! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shebeen Posted October 31, 2022 Share 1 minute ago, Eldron said: PCS have a Q36.5 PRO and Conti team "registered" for 2023 which include the results from the MTNQhubeakassoshash series of teams. Current random intel would suggest Q36.5 is the next iteration...MTNDimensionQhubeakassoshashQ36.5! That works for me too. I just assumed the main DDQ WT licence was thrown in the bin and the continental feeder team was all what was kept for 2022. Assume this means the feeder team (mainly italians) continues too Eldron 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DieselnDust Posted October 31, 2022 Share 27 minutes ago, Nick said: Something I've wondered before; how does a team's succession get decided? It's simple when someone buys a team or their license. Not much detail to go on yet but is Doug (assuming he is not simply a salaried manager acting for the team owner) is applying for the same license or a new one? Is Doug's involvement enough to say that a new team is the same as the old one, even if there is no license continuity? All assuming the current Qhubeka outfit doesn't carry on going. All good questions that I have idea where to start answering which is where my question of the threads came from. The mechanics of this deal plays a role in the survival of Team Qhubeka. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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