jdwet1980 Posted September 3, 2018 Share Mystery solved! Now we know why Zakarin from Katusha is so bad on the downhill and does not go into a tuck... His frame will break... Patchelicious 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lechatnoir Posted September 4, 2018 Share Mystery solved! Now we know why Zakarin from Katusha is so bad on the downhill and does not go into a tuck... His frame will break... in all seriousness, i think he rides and Ultimate Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dirkitech Posted September 4, 2018 Share My best guess is they're core strentgh somehow lets them rest their bodies more while being so low I just find it stupid to put yourself in A position with that little control Not being facetious here, but I tried the hands adjacent to each other over the crown this morning and my descents were definitely faster and power output lasted somewhat longer. This is going to be fun! should probably add it was on the mtb Edited September 4, 2018 by Dirkitech Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patchelicious Posted September 4, 2018 Share Not being facetious here, but I tried the hands adjacent to each other over the crown this morning and my descents were definitely faster and power output lasted somewhat longer. This is going to be fun! should probably add it was on the mtbOn the road? Kom 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gummibear Posted September 4, 2018 Share Not Aeroad related but Canyon related. I had an issue with a 10 month old Fox fork and Canyon replaced it under warranty.Just cost me the labor and some grease to fit.It was a good experience dealing with Canyon throughout the claim DieselnDust, dirtypot, Bateleur1 and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dirtypot Posted September 4, 2018 Share Not being facetious here, but I tried the hands adjacent to each other over the crown this morning and my descents were definitely faster and power output lasted somewhat longer. This is going to be fun! should probably add it was on the mtb I've tried this on my MTB on the road into a strong south easter. It definitely helps the aero, but the loss of control is huge. For me I wouldn't ever try this anywhere but on the flat back road I was on doing my 13km/h into the wind. At least with an aero tuck on the road bike your hands are still on the controls. Dirkitech 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdwet1980 Posted September 4, 2018 Share in all seriousness, i think he rides and UltimateIt would be funny if Canyon tells us the Ultimate is the model where you are allowed to sit on the top tube and the Aeroad is not. I wasn't serious about Zakarin, just remebered him getting stick on the forum for sitting up on the downhill. Might be demons from his 2016 crash. lechatnoir 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lechatnoir Posted September 4, 2018 Share It would be funny if Canyon tells us the Ultimate is the model where you are allowed to sit on the top tube and the Aeroad is not. I wasn't serious about Zakarin, just remebered him getting stick on the forum for sitting up on the downhill. Might be demons from his 2016 crash. he's a notoriously bad descender. IIRC he had eyesight problems too. can't have been much fun for him. and then to have that bad crash on the Giro stage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RocknRolla Posted September 4, 2018 Share MTB Fork gripping needs it's own thread.But it is the Supertuck of MTB'ing. dirtypot and DieselnDust 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dirtypot Posted September 4, 2018 Share MTB Fork gripping needs it's own thread.But it is the Supertuck of MTB'ing. Hasn't this become the "stupid riding positions" thread? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RocknRolla Posted September 4, 2018 Share I cant even ride a bicycle properly in "typical use" positions... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shebeen Posted September 4, 2018 Share MTB Fork gripping needs it's own thread.But it is the Supertuck of MTB'ing.speshially when you ride a cannondale lefty jdwet1980, RocknRolla, Kom and 3 others 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bike Mob Posted September 4, 2018 Share I was once shafted by a bike manufacturer. Head tube cracked and I had to send them the head tube with part of the top and down tubes and the bb shell. I went bos with the angle grinder and sent the requested sections to them only for them to turn around and tell me they can't warranty the frame because I could have cracked the frame while destroying it. Nice little Italian company building bikes for a British brand. The shop was so ashamed they replaced my frame and covered the shipping. Still I won't buy a bike from that manufacturer again. In the OP's case Canyon replaced 2 frames.... That says a lot. So they definitely honored the warranty.Can't keep giving away new frames if the end user is abusing it.Would Basso honor warranty fro TT sitting? I regularly ride on the top tube, I sit sideways on the top tube casually as most do at a coffee stop or pre race start or whatever.... I'm over 80kg. I ride a bike pretty hard. I have never had an issue of a top tube cracking, let alone three times in the same area regardless, and thats on numerous bike brands... if this bike manufacturer makes a paper thin top tube for whatever reason I don't think that it would be safe to ride even when sitting on it properly. The torsional and directional forces that go though bike in certain types of impacts with potholes, speed bumps etc can be instantaneously huge, we (all cyclists) also bunny hop things like speed bumps, potholes and dodge glass when seen at the last minute... I would hate a massive failure of a pretty large portion of the bike to just give way in an emergency stop. Do I think Canyon should warrantee the frame after being sat on improperly: NoDo I think it shouldn't have broken in the first place: Yes FYI I have also seen them outright refuse a blatant warranty case (1st claim) under the BB area on the basis that "our frames are made very strong and they can't crack there" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lechatnoir Posted September 4, 2018 Share Hasn't this become the "stupid riding positions" thread? You know, I think it actually started as that dirtypot 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dirkitech Posted September 4, 2018 Share On the road?yes, always, mtb on the road- almost done with a project for my roadie alter ego, then I can supertuck on that one too! I've tried this on my MTB on the road into a strong south easter. It definitely helps the aero, but the loss of control is huge. For me I wouldn't ever try this anywhere but on the flat back road I was on doing my 13km/h into the wind. At least with an aero tuck on the road bike your hands are still on the controls.That's a good point! To be honest, I didn't notice a lot of control issues, even held the position over 2 speed bumps, but maybe its thanks to the 26" wheels? Hmm, shouldn't that make it worse? I never thought of tucking on the mtb before but now it has me beguiled! thisismyotherbike 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thisismyotherbike Posted September 4, 2018 Share yes, always, mtb on the road- almost done with a project for my roadie alter ego, then I can supertuck on that one too! That's a good point! To be honest, I didn't notice a lot of control issues, even held the position over 2 speed bumps, but maybe its thanks to the 26" wheels? Hmm, shouldn't that make it worse? I never thought of tucking on the mtb before but now it has me beguiled! Would you believe a South African company had this figured out without the benefit of the Win Tunnel? Dirkitech 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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