Road tyre prices - what happened

[Patchelicious]

I’m calling bs on gp4000s II at R450 unless this was a cwcycles special on sanded off serial number tyres. The normal price for those tyres is R900ea and they are a high performance light weight tyre.

There are cheaper options

Good point, I have riding them for several years now, and my first pair was around R600 a tyre at CycleLab about 3 years ago.

[Mavic (Distributor)]

Hey V12 man

 

Not completely in the know on Enduro Moto tyres, but at 65 pounds for Michelin Moto enduro tyres (are these good tyres?) and 49 euro for Mavic Claw Pro all mountain tyres (this is a good tyre!  ) would give (at todays exchange rate) R1228.50 for the Moto vs R823 for the Mtb. Thats just taking RRP from each int website, not sure of distribution,taxes etc so please take my calculations with a pinch of salt - i also know squat all about Moto Enduro (except that its cheaper than Mtb'ing and i should probably rather get a  KTM 500 EXC-F than upgrading my mtb) 

 

If i remeber correctly from a friend it is cheaper to rebuild a Moto fork than an Mtb fork too!!

 

I am not in disagreement that bicycle pricing is crazy - maybe an economist can explain economy of scale in some depth - the reason two sets of brake pads for my MTB cost more than four sets for my VW caddy - and i still have change for a pie and a coke! Are items for bicycles more expensive to make, probably not, but the R&D team behind these items is probably close on the same size, so smaller sales volume but maybe similar staff costs.

 

all i know is im the chop that orders the stock and then sweats as the exchange rate skyrockets.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Because they have historically run a cartel.... and now they have to pay the fine.... that's why.

 

I am interested to hear your explanation of why bicycle tires cost twice what my Enduro MTB tires cost - fully imported..... they DO NOT cost twice what a motorbike tire costs to make....

[V12man]

Hey V12 man

 

Not completely in the know on Enduro Moto tyres, but at 65 pounds for Michelin Moto enduro tyres (are these good tyres?) and 49 euro for Mavic Claw Pro all mountain tyres (this is a good tyre!  ) would give (at todays exchange rate) R1228.50 for the Moto vs R823 for the Mtb. Thats just taking RRP from each int website, not sure of distribution,taxes etc so please take my calculations with a pinch of salt - i also know squat all about Moto Enduro (except that its cheaper than Mtb'ing and i should probably rather get a  KTM 500 EXC-F than upgrading my mtb) 

 

If i remeber correctly from a friend it is cheaper to rebuild a Moto fork than an Mtb fork too!!

 

I am not in disagreement that bicycle pricing is crazy - maybe an economist can explain economy of scale in some depth - the reason two sets of brake pads for my MTB cost more than four sets for my VW caddy - and i still have change for a pie and a coke! Are items for bicycles more expensive to make, probably not, but the R&D team behind these items is probably close on the same size, so smaller sales volume but maybe similar staff costs.

 

all i know is im the chop that orders the stock and then sweats as the exchange rate skyrockets.

When you get your MBA you sill discover that economy of scale only exists up to a certain volume point - beyond that its so small it's immaterial - fact of the matter is that my Maxxis Assegai tire I bought last week was R100 more expensive at R825 than the Mitas C-18 rear I bought 2 days before that.... and there is NO WAY that material, production or shipping costs on an MX tire are lower than an MTB tire.

 

Collusion between SA bicycle distributors around anti-competitive pricing and practices has been proven once before.... and it will happen again...

[Mongoose!]

Because they have historically run a cartel.... and now they have to pay the fine.... that's why.

 

 

 

agree

[J∆kk∆ls]

On bike website in the Netherlands Conti GP4000II going for € 35.95 (R604.48) 

Marked done from € 57.95 (R974.40)

[Nevermore]

When you get your MBA you sill discover that economy of scale only exists up to a certain volume point - beyond that its so small it's immaterial - fact of the matter is that my Maxxis Assegai tire I bought last week was R100 more expensive at R825 than the Mitas C-18 rear I bought 2 days before that.... and there is NO WAY that material, production or shipping costs on an MX tire are lower than an MTB tire.

 

Collusion between SA bicycle distributors around anti-competitive pricing and practices has been proven once before.... and it will happen again...

Yip, and when u get your MbA and you haven’t run your own company(s) and turned a mil or 10, you realize u actually know fakol.

[BaGearA]

Yip, and when u get your MbA and you haven’t run your own company(s) and turned a mil or 10, you realize u actually know fakol.

He actually knows quite a bit ..

[V12man]

Yip, and when u get your MbA and you haven’t run your own company(s) and turned a mil or 10, you realize u actually know fakol.

Some of us can at least spell properly... and we get our case's correct too - don't need an MBA for that bit of basic education - let me know when you graduate from school.

[Headshot]

What happened? The Rand happened!

Or didn't happen - depending on how you look at it

[Headshot]

Dunlop 6060 205x16x55 for R800 - lasts tens of thousands of km. 1 x Maxxis Ardent 2.4 in 26" (great tyre a proper re-engineered 26" with big volume) - R610.00 

[Rocket-Boy]

Only stumbled on this gem of a thread now, its quite entertaining.

 

Its a well known fact that cycling related stuff is stupidly overpriced and that most distributors will take advantage of currency fluctuations to raise their prices rather substantially. When said currency returns to a more normal rate then the price doesnt follow it back down. 

On the next currency fluctuation the prices climb yet again.

[lechatnoir]

Only stumbled on this gem of a thread now, its quite entertaining.

 

Its a well known fact that cycling related stuff is stupidly overpriced and that most distributors will take advantage of currency fluctuations to raise their prices rather substantially. When said currency returns to a more normal rate then the price doesnt follow it back down. 

On the next currency fluctuation the prices climb yet again.

 

South Africa... where exchange rates affect old stock prices

 

i may have said this before

[badiejb]

When you get your MBA you sill discover that economy of scale only exists up to a certain volume point - beyond that its so small it's immaterial - fact of the matter is that my Maxxis Assegai tire I bought last week was R100 more expensive at R825 than the Mitas C-18 rear I bought 2 days before that.... and there is NO WAY that material, production or shipping costs on an MX tire are lower than an MTB tire.

 

Collusion between SA bicycle distributors around anti-competitive pricing and practices has been proven once before.... and it will happen again...

 

*flame on* Trolling hard here, slow day, but if you are going to point out spelling... *flame off*

 

[mecheng89]

South Africa... where exchange rates affect old stock prices

 

i may have said this before

Finally, someone mentioned it. 

[mecheng89]

Just read this on FB - attack the topic, not one another. #pickingupsomeonesflame

[V12man]

*flame on* Trolling hard here, slow day, but if you are going to point out spelling... *flame off*

 

Small screen - mea culpa....