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[Andrew Steer]

This!

 

Price is negotiated.

 

People always bang on about the bargain they got and brag about dropping the seller's price - how is it that if the seller ups his price he is an arse?

 

Price is negotiated.

You must be great entertainment in a grocery store...

[Jewbacca]

Eliud Kipchoge has never heard of either of them...

Yeah but he is recovering presently.... 

[Wet Ears]

This!

 

Price is negotiated.

 

People always bang on about the bargain they got and brag about dropping the seller's price - how is it that if the seller ups his price he is an arse?

 

Price is negotiated.

Think you are missing the point here. The two parties agreed a price, it is a binding agreement. Seller didn't say sold, provided I don't get a better offer. 

[Wayne pudding Mol]

But What if it was Haile Gabrselassi and Mo Farrah who could probably beat everyone on bikes....

completely off topic but me and Mo had very similar time 2 weeks ago......but I was on a bike and I'm not utterly useless.  In my defence it was windy and I did 45km.  Mo only did 42 and a bit and his shoes looked fast, definitely more than 2k

 

Very uncool to charge more than an agreed price but considering the knock the seller is taking, quite understandable

[Eldron]

Think you are missing the point here. The two parties agreed a price, it is a binding agreement. Seller didn't say sold, provided I don't get a better offer. 

 

If we're going to be the legalise route with contracts and such then the buyer should take him to small claims court and force the judge to make the seller sell him the entry at R2k.

 

I agree that upping the price was not a great moral decision but cmon R2k for a W2W entry is a steal. If we're going to go the moral perfection game then the buyer should have offered the seller more because robbing him of R12,500 on a R14,500 entry is wrong!!!!!

[Stretch]

My cousin on an oil rig bought the entry for 5k. It's for his uncles sisters daughter

[Dirkitech]

I've purchased several things from hub members before and being in the situation I'm in, I usually ask if they are flexible on the price in any way. If they say yes, I thank them profusely, if they say no, I'm prepared to pay the price (otherwise I will rather not make contact with false leads). It has happened before that I've said "I'll take it" and then the buyer sold it to someone else while I was waiting for them to provide collection address details etc. or simply stopped answering me at all. If a seller tried to raise the price after agreeing to/advertise to sell at a lower price, I'd simply walk away. It isn't wrong in either case, but to some it is a no-go zone, for others it's a necessity.

[Shebeen]

A second hand sale is always open to negotiation.

 

Sale price is essentially opening offer from seller.

Buyer can try bring it down, that's where the negotation comes in.

 

BUT to bring the price up from the initial sales price makes no practical sense, why not just set the price higher in the first place? If you didn't know what it was actually worth or (as in this case) are desperate to sell then you pay the school fees.

 

but ja, there's no real rules. The seller holds the keys.

You can be the guy that "drives a hard bargain", but most people will just think you're a w@nker.

 

 

edit:Alternatively you can always go to the Whackhead school of negotating

[Craai]

Bet you’re glad now that you didn’t get the entry....

https://www.bikehub.co.za/features/_/news/mtb/sa-mtb/fnb-wines2whales-race-village-evacuated-r7600

[daniemare]

A second hand sale is always open to negotiation.

 

Sale price is essentially opening offer from seller.

Buyer can try bring it down, that's where the negotation comes in.

 

BUT to bring the price up from the initial sales price makes no practical sense, why not just set the price higher in the first place? If you didn't know what it was actually worth or (as in this case) are desperate to sell then you pay the school fees.

 

but ja, there's no real rules. The seller holds the keys.

You can be the guy that "drives a hard bargain", but most people will just think you're a w@nker.

 

 

edit:Alternatively you can always go to the Whackhead school of negotating

 

Oh no, there goes the whole auctioneering industry. I mean the opening bid can only go down, as the seller must have otherwise done his homework better.

[eddy]

Think you are missing the point here. The two parties agreed a price,

 

The OP didn't say that.

[eddy]

 

Sale price is essentially opening offer from seller.

 

Actually, it is not.

[Shebeen]

Oh no, there goes the whole auctioneering industry. I mean the opening bid can only go down, as the seller must have otherwise done his homework better.

Well it wasn't an auction, speaking of people not doing their homework. You must also be one of the fun guys to watch haggling with the supermarket cashiers.

 

 

Of course the price can go up, it's just a d1ck move to do that

[daniemare]

Well it wasn't an auction, speaking of people not doing their homework. You must also be one of the fun guys to watch haggling with the supermarket cashiers.

 

 

Of course the price can go up, it's just a d1ck move to do that

No I do not haggle at the till, as the cashier is not an agent of the owner of the goods and thus in no legal position to partake in a haggling. So I guess my homework tell me don’t bother. Unlike when you sell goods you have full agency over, then the offer price is open haggling.

 

I see no reason why an advertised price cannot go up. And I do not see why so many on the Hub gets emotional about it. I could never get the, I was first, or don’t increase your price mantra. I am a firm believer in your right to secure the best price you can and to give preference to the person delivering his cash first.

 

And what you said is just factually incorrect, although the seller should do his homework, it cannot be correct that he must be so good at it that he cannot realise that the market will actually bare more based on demand.Thats one of the basic ways prices go up at the JSE, auctions etc.

 

And like someone else said here, if there is some moral code to honour for not increasing the price, where is the morals of offering more if you know it is worth more.

 

Where I do agree however is that when you agree to terms (price, method of payment and time of payment) you have a contract which must be honoured, even if you then get a better offer. But I did not read that that was the case here

[fabes]

No I do not haggle at the till, as the cashier is not an agent of the owner of the goods and thus in no legal position to partake in a haggling. So I guess my homework tell me don’t bother. Unlike when you sell goods you have full agency over, then the offer price is open haggling.

 

I see no reason why an advertised price cannot go up. And I do not see why so many on the Hub gets emotional about it. I could never get the, I was first, or don’t increase your price mantra. I am a firm believer in your right to secure the best price you can and to give preference to the person delivering his cash first.

 

And what you said is just factually incorrect, although the seller should do his homework, it cannot be correct that he must be so good at it that he cannot realise that the market will actually bare more based on demand.Thats one of the basic ways prices go up at the JSE, auctions etc.

 

And like someone else said here, if there is some moral code to honour for not increasing the price, where is the morals of offering more if you know it is worth more.

 

Where I do agree however is that when you agree to terms (price, method of payment and time of payment) you have a contract which must be honoured, even if you then get a better offer. But I did not read that that was the case here

If you want to secure a good price rather start high and settle for slightly less instead of starting low and then bargaining a buyer up.

 

I think in this case seller was happy to get R2000 for the entry taking whatever he could get but once the fish started biting he wanted to start an auction. Not on in my opinion

 

I recently sold stuff on the hub. I didn’t have a price in mind but told the buyers to make me an offer. Buyers made an offer and I accepted. I then got offered a higher price afterwards, I said sorry I have sold already.

[Shebeen]

No I do not haggle at the till, as the cashier is not an agent of the owner of the goods and thus in no legal position to partake in a haggling. So I guess my homework tell me don’t bother. Unlike when you sell goods you have full agency over, then the offer price is open haggling.

 

I see no reason why an advertised price cannot go up. And I do not see why so many on the Hub gets emotional about it. I could never get the, I was first, or don’t increase your price mantra. I am a firm believer in your right to secure the best price you can and to give preference to the person delivering his cash first.

 

And what you said is just factually incorrect, although the seller should do his homework, it cannot be correct that he must be so good at it that he cannot realise that the market will actually bare more based on demand.Thats one of the basic ways prices go up at the JSE, auctions etc.

 

And like someone else said here, if there is some moral code to honour for not increasing the price, where is the morals of offering more if you know it is worth more.

 

Where I do agree however is that when you agree to terms (price, method of payment and time of payment) you have a contract which must be honoured, even if you then get a better offer. But I did not read that that was the case here

You must be fun to watch in a spaza shop then, or if Raymond is in the store.

 

Ok this example. R14k5 entry going for R2k? Oke is desperate for a quick sale, but underestimated the demand from last minute dot com entrants. Can't really relate that to an efficient market like a stock exchange.

 

The way you think I can see why you don't understand that what the seller did is *** style