Lotus Posted April 2, 2019 Share Great news! Mike Patey is back for a new build with his brother (yep, 2 planes this time). Intro to new build: And be sure to watch this week's 2nd episode - there's a great story in there about a baseball cap in a flying competition, and some awesome footage of Draco taking off (damn near vertically!). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eddy Posted April 3, 2019 Share Great news! Mike Patey is back for a new build with his brother (yep, 2 planes this time). Intro to new build: Now THAT is what a mancave should look like...…. Spokey 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eddy Posted April 3, 2019 Share For those asking questions about how Boeing got themselves into the 737 MAX mess, here is a good history lesson: https://www.vox.com/business-and-finance/2019/3/29/18281270/737-max-faa-scandal-explained DJR and Lotus 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Capricorn Posted April 3, 2019 Share For those asking questions about how Boeing got themselves into the 737 MAX mess, here is a good history lesson: https://www.vox.com/business-and-finance/2019/3/29/18281270/737-max-faa-scandal-explained another article that summarises salient points in an attempt to bring the bigger picture back into focus: was the regulatory clearing process flawed and what else is lurking underneath that could cause another plane crash?In the current political climate, I expect the senate sub-committee hearing to be the shiny gloss lipstick on the pig. That said, there's a republican heading up the sub-committee into an issue that cropped up during the democrat regime. This is political cannonfodder. Edited April 3, 2019 by Capricorn Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disher Posted April 3, 2019 Share Have a look at that hangar that Mike Patey owns.... #drool. On the field, a few stories, office based there, stunning. The guy has skills though, and boy can he build a plane. Saw draco in Oshkosh last year, boy shes impressive. Lotus 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kosmonooit Posted April 3, 2019 Share Have a look at that hangar that Mike Patey owns.... #drool. On the field, a few stories, office based there, stunning.The guy has skills though, and boy can he build a plane. Saw draco in Oshkosh last year, boy shes impressive. Yes very impressive all rounder ... and having a successful business that generates lots of cash to facilitate these projects, only in the USA? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrJacques Posted April 4, 2019 Share Having the entire plane to yourself https://www.traveller24.com/News/Flights/this-man-was-the-only-passenger-on-a-boeing-737-along-with-7-crew-members-20190404 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrJacques Posted April 5, 2019 Share https://www.rt.com/news/455587-boeing-sorry-lives-lost-crashes/ https://www.rt.com/news/455598-boeing-737-new-software-problem/ Bateleur1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bateleur1 Posted April 5, 2019 Share https://www.rt.com/news/455587-boeing-sorry-lives-lost-crashes/ https://www.rt.com/news/455598-boeing-737-new-software-problem/ Think Boeing is going to get #GrootPakslae. Robbie Stewart 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robbie Stewart Posted April 5, 2019 Share It has been said in the past, "if it ain't Boeing, I ain't going".Methinks it's to be rephrased to "if it's Boeing, I ain't going" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Capricorn Posted April 5, 2019 Share It has been said in the past, "if it ain't Boeing, I ain't going". Methinks it's to be rephrased to "if it's Boeing, I ain't going"stock price disagrees with you. As most investor notes have stated: the downside of this whole disaster is already built into the stock price. There's only up from here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spoke101 Posted April 5, 2019 Share Yes very impressive all rounder ... and having a successful business that generates lots of cash to facilitate these projects, only in the USA? I would not go as far as to say only in the US. Not sure if you know him and his brothers background and how "learning disabled" they were.Almost anything is possible if you put in enough time and effort, the man's work ethic is crazy. He's the type of guy pulling +100hr work weeks and if you can sustain that with a little smart thinking you will almost always be successful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disher Posted April 5, 2019 Share complete insomniac - operates on 3 hours a night max... workaholic entrepreneur, fabulous combo fair to say though that he also has ALL the tools. He speaks in one video about needing to create a part for Draco that he just molded at 3a.m. his workshop is kitted!!! Spoke101 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robbie Stewart Posted April 5, 2019 Share stock price disagrees with you. As most investor notes have stated: the downside of this whole disaster is already built into the stock price. There's only up from here. As long as the up includes thoroughly tested software fixes, that have been quality assured and bench-marked, before finally being signed off by impartial regulators, who have no vested interests in the stock price for Boeing to get all the grounded planes in the air again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kosmonooit Posted April 6, 2019 Share The preliminary report on the recent 737 Max disaster is here if you haven't seen it: http://www.ecaa.gov.et/documents/20435/0/Preliminary+Report+B737-800MAX+%2C(ET-AVJ).pdf My summary:Left AOL or feeder circuit fails shortly after take offMCAS tries to trim downPilots try to trim upSpeed keeps on increasingTrim Motor Cut Out switches enabled as per the procedure (which also calls for them to remain off for the duration of the flight)MCAS tries to trim down but does not result in change of horiz stabliser angle, consistent with the trim motors being switched offFO tries manual trim wheels but can't turn them (presumably because of the high speed causing high forces on the mechanism). Not indicated whether both triedElectric Trim is used again to try trim up (were the CO switches reversed?)MCAS then trims down because the motors were on and pitches the aircraft nose down 40deg and 500 knots into the ground. One possible explanation is that the electric trim switches were moved back up because they could not manually trim up. Apparently there are techniques for dealing with this in this state. Question I have is why the speed continued to increase to Vne (never exceed) "the N1 Reference remained about 94% and the throttles did not move." Does that means the throttle levers were left full taps? In my PPL training, although a distant past, I remember one thing, the first thing from dealing with an emergency "FLY the airplane" The tragic flaw in this airplane is the MCAS relying on only one AOA sensor. And the "AOA Disagree Indicator" being an option. Here is where Boeing is going to have a problem. Training videos I have seen is that the manual trim wheels need some muscle power to crank, Resistance will go up with the square of the speed. Edited April 6, 2019 by kosmonooit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bonus Posted April 7, 2019 Share 40 deg @ 500 knts until you hit terrain. nightmare. Spoke101 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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