New Hardtail vs 2nd hand Dual sus

[cpelser]

https://www.bikehub.co.za/classifieds/344555-giant-xtc-hardtail-xl/

 

THIS is a good deal - guy's a bit clueless though, that's a Reba and not Fox.

I'd have a hubber or a LBS check out the bike!

[arendoog]

I ride both regularly .Nothing beats a proper HT on shorter rides .DS bikes are good for long ,rough terrain days .Ideally to have both is the best 

[Dicky DQ]

Simple, Shimano components get a tick.

Sram crap gets a cross.

 

Your list just got shorter.

Thank me latter.

NO NO, do not go for Shimano!!! Maybe the cheap stuff is better than the XTR

https://community.bikehub.co.za/topic/180847-shimano-xtr-please-help/

 

But a top end HT is better than even a 2nd hand dual.

 

I spent months with this issue and the HT wone out, now just to get the Shimano to work, but it seems imposible.

[Goodbadugly]

NO NO, do not go for Shimano!!! Maybe the cheap stuff is better than the XTR

https://community.bikehub.co.za/topic/180847-shimano-xtr-please-help/

 

But a top end HT is better than even a 2nd hand dual.

 

I spent months with this issue and the HT wone out, now just to get the Shimano to work, but it seems imposible.

And then you get okes like me who ride both shimano and sram with no problems

[Noshow]

To complicate things a bit, a 29er hardtail with slacker head tube (<70), a longer fork (>120), wider rims and width for wider tyres (2.4-2.6), wide bars and short stem, would be a very versatile, comfortable and good value bike, especially if it was carbon.

 

Most of the stock hard tails are a bit racy in geometry, fork, tyres etc and make the downhills a bit hairy.  

[PhilipV]

NO NO, do not go for Shimano!!! Maybe the cheap stuff is better than the XTR

https://community.bikehub.co.za/topic/180847-shimano-xtr-please-help/

 

But a top end HT is better than even a 2nd hand dual.

 

I spent months with this issue and the HT wone out, now just to get the Shimano to work, but it seems imposible.

All my bikes are now on shimano. Maintenance is soooooooooo much cheaper. And I find that 11s sram is so finicky compared to the solid shift of their older 10spd.

 

But none of my bikes are on the SkouPonie stuff. The worker's class shimano is solid.

[Noshow]

Like the Trek Stache...

 

Stache 5 on sale for under 20K.

 

https://www.trekbikes.com/za/en_ZA/bikes/mountain-bikes/trail-mountain-bikes/stache/stache-5/p/17392/?colorCode=black

 

 

 

To complicate things a bit, a 29er hardtail with slacker head tube (<70), a longer fork (>120), wider rims and width for wider tyres (2.4-2.6), wide bars and short stem, would be a very versatile, comfortable and good value bike, especially if it was carbon.

 

Most of the stock hard tails are a bit racy in geometry, fork, tyres etc and make the downhills a bit hairy.  

[Hairy]

you called?

 

Locally, the Momsen STR rocks a slightly slack 69deg HA with a 120mm fork, and is made from steel.

 

Then if you want to go as slack or rad as you like, there is always the Mercer Bikes (Steel) or Calculus Bikes (Ti) custom frame options.

 

Agreed that most locally available frames are more XCO / XM focused.

 

To complicate things a bit, a 29er hardtail with slacker head tube (<70), a longer fork (>120), wider rims and width for wider tyres (2.4-2.6), wide bars and short stem, would be a very versatile, comfortable and good value bike, especially if it was carbon.

 

Most of the stock hard tails are a bit racy in geometry, fork, tyres etc and make the downhills a bit hairy.  

[ChrisF]

And then you get okes like me who ride both shimano and sram with no problems

 

same on this side .... (touch wood)

 

Commuter - HT with Shimano.   ENJOYED my commute this afternoon    

 

for the trails - Full Sus with SRAM .... LOVE this baby !!!!

[Me rida my bicycle]

You are on the right track with the Scott Scale.

It's the most fun xc HT on the trails. (having owned a couple like the Highball cc and alu, Vertex 990 and 930, XTC, Storm 1, FSI 1, Stumpjumper HT, Sola 1, Air 9 and a couple other)

Good slack (for a xc HT) geometry makes it great fun and capable on the trails and it's very comfortable.

I enjoy my Scale more than most of the dual suspension bikes I have owned and maintenance is way less.

[Me rida my bicycle]

And then you get okes like me who ride both shimano and sram with no problems

Yip I guess it all depends on who set your bike up and how you look after it.

I do my own bikes XT 11 on 1 and XO 11 on the other and they both work perfectly.

Each has its advantages, XT can drop 2 gears at a time and cheap replacement parts and sram shifts feels awesome and much lighter.

[ChrisF]

Yip I guess it all depends on who set your bike up and how you look after it.

I do my own bikes XT 11 on 1 and XO 11 on the other and they both work perfectly.

Each has its advantages, XT can drop 2 gears at a time and cheap replacement parts and sram shifts feels awesome and much lighter.

 

Hehehe ....

 

Got s skrik today during my commute when the XT dropped two gears .... got so used to double clicking the lever to get two drops with the SRAM ...

[daniemare]

Your open for 2nd hand.

 

Why then not second hand HT.

 

Imagine what you can buy for R20k if you go that route

[sirmoun10goat]

I certainly don't agree with that. HT is fine for most stage races

 

 

When I was in the OP's position I opted for the HT and it worked out perfectly fine.

 

What I would add that few years down the line you will eventually come to a point where you would want that full suspension, but then it is also nice if you can keep the old hardtail and have the option to use either.

[sirmoun10goat]

A HT is good for all races. I did attakwas, followed by epic and the joberg2c on a HT

[Rouxenator]

A HT is good for all races. I did attakwas, followed by epic and the joberg2c on a HT

 

Totally agree - I have finished 6 Transkaroos, 4 Cederberg 100 milers and 8 K2Cs - all on hard tails - no problems. So I really fail to see why one needs a dual sus, unless age is catching up with you?

 

My bike needs to be ready 6 days a week, 1 for fun and 5 for the commute of which the morning 11km is tarmac and the afternoon 24km is 50/50 offroad/tarmac. A dual sus is simply too much maintenance when it comes to that amount of riding.

 

Plus there is nothing more irritating than a squeaky dualie. I like my bikes stealthy, like "Die Skim"...