IceCreamMan Posted August 14, 2019 Share You call the Ghost busters.....Funny you should say that the Ghostbusters vehicle was parked as I got off the tube this morning in Canary wharf. Cept it was not upside down. Edited August 14, 2019 by IceCreamMan Kenty 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickGM Posted August 14, 2019 Share Mentioning Hitler or comparing apartheid to the Nazi’s is not Godwin’s law. The law is about the degradation of the conversation to where forum users start calling other users nazis over a long enough time line. From wiki:"if an online discussion (regardless of topic or scope) goes on long enough, sooner or later someone will compare someone or something to Adolf Hitler or his deeds" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patchelicious Posted August 14, 2019 Share From wiki:"if an online discussion (regardless of topic or scope) goes on long enough, sooner or later someone will compare someone or something to Adolf Hitler or his deeds"Exactly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickGM Posted August 14, 2019 Share Exactly.Thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skubarra Posted August 14, 2019 Share thanks you, and bicycles? I don't know? The French? Google that yourself Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slowbee Posted August 14, 2019 Share I don't know? The French? Google that yourself :eek: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobertWhitehead Posted August 14, 2019 Share The writer of the article probably work for Bell Portinger (or whomever now tries to cause nonsense across the racial lines) - People are lazy beings, fact! Just watch Wall-E if you want scientific proof . The bottom line is simple: People have less time due to the fast paced lifestyle and therefore opt for a faster mode of transport. It's the same reason why we're no longer using horse carts. This article actually supports my Wall-E scientific proof as well: https://businesstech.co.za/news/lifestyle/331389/heres-how-many-south-africans-are-overweight-according-to-discovery/?source=newsletter Kenty, Goodbadugly and RocknRolla 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris_ Posted August 14, 2019 Share The writer of the article probably work for Bell Portinger (or whomever now tries to cause nonsense across the racial lines) - People are lazy beings, fact! Just watch Wall-E if you want scientific proof . The bottom line is simple: People have less time due to the fast paced lifestyle and therefore opt for a faster mode of transport. It's the same reason why we're no longer using horse carts. This article actually supports my Wall-E scientific proof as well: https://businesstech.co.za/news/lifestyle/331389/heres-how-many-south-africans-are-overweight-according-to-discovery/?source=newsletter And now that we realize what we've done... want the good ol days back Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patchelicious Posted August 14, 2019 Share Thanks. Nee man, I wasn't agreeing with you, ai tog When Mike Godwin created it in 1990, he was trying to address the issue of people simply comparing someone else to Hitler or Nazis to win an argument on forums, not for when there are actual and relevant comparisons being made. This is from the man himself. Edited August 14, 2019 by Patchelicious RocknRolla 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skubarra Posted August 14, 2019 Share The writer of the article probably work for Bell Portinger (or whomever now tries to cause nonsense across the racial lines) - When you forcibly move people to live far outside the cities it becomes impractical to commute by bicycle. Don't see why this is so controversial or hard to understand? There are far worse things blamed on apartheid. Read the article almost 2 months ago, thought it was at most mildly interesting - clearly underestimated the hub's ability to be offended or is it just a slow news day here? Wayne pudding Mol, BigDL, eddy and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IceCreamMan Posted August 14, 2019 Share When you forcibly move people to live far outside the cities it becomes impractical to commute by bicycle. Don't see why this is so controversial or hard to understand? There are far worse things blamed on apartheid. Read the article almost 2 months ago, thought it was at most mildly interesting - clearly underestimated the hub's ability to be offended or is it just a slow news day here?I think the audience is just gatvol of the continual blame apartheid syndrome. After a while it gets a lil stupid. It’s a tenuous link between apartheid and demise of commuter cycling at best. The world over saw a reduction in cycling irrespective of race or location as other forms such as cars, buses, trains etc became more common. Recently in western countries there has probably been an increase in cycling imho. But some will still try beat that old tired worn out drum Dirkitech, MORNE , RocknRolla and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hansolo Posted August 14, 2019 Share Weird article and I can’t really figure out what’s its trying to achieve. I think commuting took a knock worldwide when cars started becoming more popular/cheaper and suburbs started popping up on the outskirts of cities. I think more people would commute if they had proper facilities (bike parking and showers) at work and they life close enough. Dirkitech 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skubarra Posted August 14, 2019 Share I think the audience is just gatvol of the continual blame apartheid syndrome. After a while it gets a lil stupid. It’s a tenuous link between apartheid and demise of commuter cycling at best. The world over saw a reduction in cycling irrespective of race or location as other forms such as cars, buses, trains etc became more common. Recently in western countries there has probably been an increase in cycling imho. But some will still try beat that old tired worn out drum Did you read the whole article or just the headline? Maybe the headline was too sensationalist for this sensitive audience because the actual article gives a balanced history including covering the points you just wrote in your post Postwar infrastructure investment enhanced motoring at the expense of alternatives, and Johannesburg undertook significant works: road widening, highway construction, underpasses, overpasses, bridges and off-street parking facilities. Roads became understood as corridors for moving motor vehicles.While cycling also lost status across the western world from the 1950s, in South Africa a combination of economic growth, high levels of car ownership among white people and deep social divisions meant this process played out earlier, more rapidly and more intensely. cat-i and eddy 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickGM Posted August 14, 2019 Share Nee man, I wasn't agreeing with you, ai tog When Mike Godwin created it in 1990, he was trying to address the issue of people simply comparing someone else to Hitler or Nazis to win an argument on forums, not for when there are actual and relevant comparisons being made. This is from the man himself.I know, I was just being facetious and trying to claim it. But having read more, I agree with you. The wiki definition (and so my understanding) was far too open to interpretation. Edited August 14, 2019 by NickGM Patchelicious 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IceCreamMan Posted August 14, 2019 Share Did you read the whole article or just the headline? Maybe the headline was too sensationalist for this sensitive audience because the actual article gives a balanced history including covering the points you just wrote in your post Postwar infrastructure investment enhanced motoring at the expense of alternatives, and Johannesburg undertook significant works: road widening, highway construction, underpasses, overpasses, bridges and off-street parking facilities. Roads became understood as corridors for moving motor vehicles.While cycling also lost status across the western world from the 1950s, in South Africa a combination of economic growth, high levels of car ownership among white people and deep social divisions meant this process played out earlier, more rapidly and more intensely.Sigh, I read it in its entirety. Just so tired with the incessant blame apartheid brigade. What next ? How apartheid killed the cycling culture indeed. Did you even read the headline? And it did not strike you as odd or sensationalist? Edited August 14, 2019 by IceCreamMan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MORNE Posted August 14, 2019 Share Sigh, I read it in its entirety. Just so tired with the incessant blame apartheid brigade. What next ?Animal Farm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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