dsw Posted July 11, 2020 Share BMT and seasons of experience. What Bernal lacks and Froome has plenty of. G will also assist Froome more if needs be, more than he would the Columbian. The only advantage Froome has on Bernal is experience....Bernal has plenty of BMT... he proved it by winning the TdF, Swiss Tour and Paris to Nice at age 22. There is also no reason to believe that G will support a rider who is leaving more than he will support someone who will still be his teammate next season. There is also Kwiatkowski, Rowe, Sivakov, Amador, van Baarle who will be vital in terms of support. Froome will need something else to beat Bernal taking into consideration their performances over the last 2 years. Perhaps some sort of divine intervention is his best chance.. DieselnDust, J Wakefield and Gen 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ozzie NL Posted July 12, 2020 Share My thought too. I’ll back Nairo for the win and hope for fireworks from the EF youngsters.Discounting team Jumbo with Roglic, Dumoulin, Kruijswijk and good domestiques? Vetplant and Gen 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cav' Posted July 12, 2020 Share Discounting team Jumbo with Roglic, Dumoulin, Kruijswijk and good domestiques?Not at all. I wish we had an indication of Tom and Steven’s form. I would’ve sent one of them to the Giro though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ozzie NL Posted July 12, 2020 Share Not at all. I wish we had an indication of Tom and Steven’s form. I would’ve sent one of them to the Giro though.The whole TdF team is in France at altitude. I have a feeling the upheaval in camp INEOS will play into Jumbo’s hands. Edited July 12, 2020 by Ossie NL DieselnDust, Cav' and Vetplant 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gen Posted July 12, 2020 Share Not at all. I wish we had an indication of Tom and Steven’s form. I would’ve sent one of them to the Giro though.We don't exactly have indication on anyone's form.. [emoji2368] DieselnDust and ChrisF 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cav' Posted July 12, 2020 Share We don't exactly have indication on anyone's form.. [emoji2368]Touché. We’ll have to wait till the Dauphiné, 2 weeks before the tour. I reckon everyone will take their tdf squad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J Wakefield Posted July 12, 2020 Share Thanks John, what I meant was taking him at any salary is a massive risk - I wouldn’t spend my money if I was a team owner - that said I still wouldn’t bet against him Im pretty much of the same view as you. Damned if you do, damned if you dont. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J Wakefield Posted July 12, 2020 Share Is there a possibility that his current contract at Ineos guarantees him a place at tour? Contracts can state such things but ultimately its the team management who decides. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J Wakefield Posted July 12, 2020 Share *was answered. Edited July 12, 2020 by J Wakefield Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J Wakefield Posted July 12, 2020 Share BMT and seasons of experience. What Bernal lacks and Froome has plenty of. G will also assist Froome more if needs be, more than he would the Columbian. Bru, have you seen what Bernal has won and overcome in races as a kid barely being able to shave his face? He can pass unused BMT around to help his team mates. On the G part, wouldn't go to the bookies on that... Gen, DieselnDust and EvanB 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gen Posted July 12, 2020 Share Bru, have you seen what Bernal has won and overcome in races as a kid barely being able to shave his face? He can pass unused BMT around to help his team mates. On the G part, wouldn't go to the bookies on that...Agreed.. the kid is outstanding, ticks all of the boxes. DieselnDust 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
'Dale Posted July 12, 2020 Share Bernal, Pogačar, early 20s with the GC credentials many would dream of. Then there’s the mercurial all-round abilities of a van der Poel, van Aert - remarkable group of new era marquees professionals. Im sure I’ve missed out a few other notable performers. Keen to see what Louis Meintjies is capable of after overcoming personal setback. Dumoulin-Roggas-Kruijswijk such a potent line-up. Hope the TdF is able to navigate three weeks safely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shebeen Posted July 12, 2020 Share Bru, have you seen what Bernal has won and overcome in races as a kid barely being able to shave his face? He can pass unused BMT around to help his team mates. On the G part, wouldn't go to the bookies on that...It seems a forgone conclusion that Bernal is streets ahead of everyone, and is the man to beat. Despite his age/experience I find it hard to disagree with this sentiment. The second album is always harder than the debut, but he seems ready to take on the extra pressure of expectation. Damn, this better not be boring J Wakefield 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kosmonooit Posted July 12, 2020 Share Bernal did get lucky last tour with that shortened stage, although he does have bags of talent. He has always come across with a sense of humility, and a good attitude (which is what Brailsford liked), hard to see him usurping team mate Froome. But that was then, now is now, things have changed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cav' Posted July 12, 2020 Share Bru, have you seen what Bernal has won and overcome in races as a kid barely being able to shave his face? He can pass unused BMT around to help his team mates. On the G part, wouldn't go to the bookies on that...Bru you’re gonna look like a twat if you’re wrong. Maybe stop playing Bikehub DS, you’re not. A lot can happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jewbacca Posted July 12, 2020 Share I always love how people can argue whose guess is better... There is NO indication of form, so we are all talking about 'then'. Who knows, maybe the lockdown has taken it's toll mentally on some of the big names. Their conditioning isn't working re timing etc etc... Some guys might have had an amazing out of contest out of testing dope up during lock down and are looking and feeling stronger than a long haired Sampson. None of us know. While I appreciate John has 'inside info' being part of the setup at UAE and a well respected coach to many, he is also playing the 'before' game. We are all pretty caught up in the big names as the past is all we have to go on. I am hoping for a breakout nobody in the shape of his life getting in a few breaks early and suddenly 'oh dear! The names are all 6 minutes adrift with 12 days of racing to go....... Patchelicious, Shebeen, Gen and 4 others 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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