Bikepacking / Bike Touring

[Spy007]

then used this during munga

 

https://www.macete.co.za/shop/lizzard/lizzard-saddle-bag/lizzard-thorung-la-bicycle-saddle-bag-black/

 

 

[Eddie Stafford]

I am not sure if Decathlon in South Africa stocks pannier racks and bags, but their overseas branches have a huge collection. One can probably enquire from them if they can get stock.

https://www.decathlon.co.uk/browse/c0-sports/c1-cycling/c3-pannier-bags-and-saddle-bags/_/N-12a753p

https://www.decathlon.co.uk/browse/c0-sports/c1-cycling/c3-pannier-racks-and-bike-baskets/_/N-kdm44i

Not all bikes are suitable for panniers and pannier bags.

The other option is to go for a handlebar bag and saddlebag. The Topeak serious are available in SA, CWC were able to order some. They are not to expensive and excellent quality. What is nice is that there drybags have an outlet to let air out when you close the bag. 

The handlebar bag and saddle bag is only a simple harness with a drybag. I think any of the tent/safari/seat cover manufactures can easily make one to custom fit your bike. Just take them a photo of what you have in mind. At the end of the day it is just a piece of canvass and a few straps. Drybags are easy to come by.

I am using Acepack. It is one of the cheaper brands and the quality is fantastic. https://www.acepac.bike/sedlove-brasny/

Also look at www.bike24.com there are 100's to choose from.

[Eddie Stafford]

I am not sure if Decathlon in South Africa stocks pannier racks and bags, but their overseas branches have a huge collection. One can probably enquire from them if they can get stock.

https://www.decathlon.co.uk/browse/c0-sports/c1-cycling/c3-pannier-bags-and-saddle-bags/_/N-12a753p

https://www.decathlon.co.uk/browse/c0-sports/c1-cycling/c3-pannier-racks-and-bike-baskets/_/N-kdm44i

Not all bikes are suitable for panniers and pannier bags.

The other option is to go for a handlebar bag and saddlebag. The Topeak serious are available in SA, CWC were able to order some. They are not to expensive and excellent quality. What is nice is that there drybags have an outlet to let air out when you close the bag. 

The handlebar bag and saddle bag is only a simple harness with a drybag. I think any of the tent/safari/seat cover manufactures can easily make one to custom fit your bike. Just take them a photo of what you have in mind. At the end of the day it is just a piece of canvass and a few straps. Drybags are easy to come by.

I am using Acepack. It is one of the cheaper brands and the quality is fantastic. https://www.acepac.bike/sedlove-brasny/

Also look at www.bike24.com there are 100's to choose from.

[Spy007]

just got the 5lt dry bags at decathlon. under 150 each. the 10l is slightly big and does not fit on the front fork carrier.

 

[Spy007]

 

Current GB setup with the frame bag and then the front fork mounts.

These take 2 x 1 lt and can go as big as 1.5 or a 5lt dry bag

 

moving away from camel-back trying to put as much weighth on bike to keep bum happy

https://www.instagram.com/p/CRlM5aCHV-z/?utm_source=ig_web_copy_link

 

 

https://www.instagram.com/p/CCD42iSH2In/?utm_source=ig_web_copy_link

my gravel bike setup but on the silverback i have a frame bag and 2 front fork mounts

 

 

My munga setup

https://www.instagram.com/p/B7XmWFkglOC/?utm_source=ig_web_copy_link

[Jaco Greeff]

3 hours ago, Eddie Stafford said:

I am not sure if Decathlon in South Africa stocks pannier racks and bags, but their overseas branches have a huge collection. One can probably enquire from them if they can get stock.

https://www.decathlon.co.uk/browse/c0-sports/c1-cycling/c3-pannier-bags-and-saddle-bags/_/N-12a753p

https://www.decathlon.co.uk/browse/c0-sports/c1-cycling/c3-pannier-racks-and-bike-baskets/_/N-kdm44i

Not all bikes are suitable for panniers and pannier bags.

The other option is to go for a handlebar bag and saddlebag. The Topeak serious are available in SA, CWC were able to order some. They are not to expensive and excellent quality. What is nice is that there drybags have an outlet to let air out when you close the bag. 

The handlebar bag and saddle bag is only a simple harness with a drybag. I think any of the tent/safari/seat cover manufactures can easily make one to custom fit your bike. Just take them a photo of what you have in mind. At the end of the day it is just a piece of canvass and a few straps. Drybags are easy to come by.

I am using Acepack. It is one of the cheaper brands and the quality is fantastic. https://www.acepac.bike/sedlove-brasny/

Also look at www.bike24.com there are 100's to choose from.

The are not in the stores in Alberton, Boksburg or Centurion. This morning I see that they have been removed from their SA website as well. I was looking to buy the 2 off the 20L ones.

[AdamA]

19 hours ago, Mountain Bru said:

Also, anyone in Pretoria (maybe even JHB) willing to loan their pannier and bag system out in exchange for a 6 cold beverages of your choice? Keen to give things a try before dropping many moola on a set of bags.

You are welcome to try my Pannier and bags, BUT, 1 - they only fit on a Hardtail and 2 - I'll need them back in September as I am planning a trip. 

Pannier/rack weighs about 1.2 kg - similar to https://www.decathlon.co.za/bike-racks/187311-18723-100-24-28quote-bike-pannier-rack.html

bags from Decathlon weigh 930g - https://www.decathlon.co.uk/p/double-bag-100-2-x-15l/_/R-p-158320

 

https://forum.bikehub.co.za/topic/189457-bikepacking-bike-touring/?do=findComment&comment=3818525

 

[Shebeen]

On 8/9/2021 at 8:03 PM, Jaco Greeff said:

Hi There. I see all your weight is on the back.

Does it work nice for you ?

top pic was the setup in '04 i put together. traditional bike touring and what was available at the time. it's back heavy loaded. bike can do an easy wheelie uphill, affects steering for sure, but manegeable on district roads. i had a kickstand - need to find level ground for this to work., very important also to put na elastic on your handlebar to use as a handbrake.

bottom pic i also had a backpack.

[Mountain Bru]

Does anyone know what the import duty is on things like pannier bags and racks?

Are they considered "bike components" and have 0% duty, or is there some other exorbitant import duty?

 

 

 

[Zebra]

Unsure about BICYCLE panniers; I import MOTORCYCLE panniers for a living; 25% duty from EU, 30% duty from USA, we do not import soft luggage from China, presently.

 

cheers

Chris

[Jaco Greeff]

1 hour ago, Zebra said:

Unsure about BICYCLE panniers; I import MOTORCYCLE panniers for a living; 25% duty from EU, 30% duty from USA, we do not import soft luggage from China, presently.

 

cheers

Chris

What does the ones you want to import look like ?

[Mountain Bru]

13 minutes ago, Jaco Greeff said:

What does the ones you want to import look like ?

Probably Thule or Ortlieb ones. They're significantly cheaper overseas, but if you add 25% import duty on them, I'm not sure it's still work the effort (or still cheaper). 

For example, these are R2900 at Thule here, But around R1600 without tax and duties from European online shops (https://www.bikeinn.com/bike/thule-shield-25l-pair-saddlebags/137441780/p , https://www.bike-discount.de/en/buy/thule-shield-pannier-25l-bike-bags-953568?currency=1&delivery_country=161) 

But if you take the BikeInn price of R1600, add 25% import duties (R400), and then 16% VAT (R320), you're at R2320 without shipping (which they quote at R1270), but with Global Shopper would be like R300, but will mean paying double VAT, so the price will be R1800 + R450 duties + R360 VAT, +R300 shipping, so R2900 all together. 

But if the import duties were 0%, and spreading the shipping across multiple items if you buy a few things, it would be much cheaper than buying locally though. (R1600 +16% VAT would be R1850ish)

 

[Kixx]

Import duties do apply and doubt it is worth the effort. There's a good exposition on this on Cycle Touring website www.cycletouring.co.za

 

[Johnny Utah]

Hi , My tyres are less than 1bar , pretty soft .( 4'8 inch tyres )  It gives for a very comfy ride and thus don't need suspension . As for rolling resistance I can get speeds of 20-25 km/h on flat fairly descent gravel roads . My bike weighs in at about 23 kg as you see it , kit + bike that is .  

[Rebel 3]

On 8/1/2021 at 2:34 PM, Mountain Bru said:

You appear to have over inflated your tyres... Always stick to the max pressure rating specified by the manufacturer.....

Having never ridden a fat bike though, how much suspension do you get out of those tyres? You're obviously paying a big penalty in terms of rolling resistance, but do you at least get some decent squisshyness on the bumpy stuff (considering that you've gone full rigid)?

I admire your eyesight that you can tell tyres are overinflated just by looking at a photo!

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[Mountain Bru]

8 hours ago, Rebel 3 said:

I admire your eyesight that you can tell tyres are overinflated just by looking at a photo!

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(It's a fat bike, so the tyres are huge.....)