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problem is no one is in the form of tadej on the planet .recon his team is not as good as visma but don't think he cares with his form for the TDF. hoping roglic shows some stuff in the criterium

peepeekaitjie · June 5

6 minutes ago, Sloggy said:

recon his team is not as good as visma

🇸🇮 Tadej Pogačar 🇬🇧 Adam Yates 🇪🇸 Juan Ayuso 🇵🇹 Joao Almeida 🇪🇸 Marc Soler 🇫🇷 Pavel Sivakov 🇧🇪 Tim Wellens 🇩🇪 Nils Politt

please explain to me how that is not as good as visma?

Sloggy · June 5

I do agree with you in part in the current situation ie injuries etc with Wout and Jones and a few others however assuming they are all back to their fighting fit weight in my opinion are a much stronger team.

Adam Yates like his brother just dont seems to deliver the punch on a consistent basis. Mark soler is and the other are great but for me not in the same domestique category Sepp Kuss, Tiej Benoot etc. I actually think that Sepp Kuss could be the team leader if Jonas is out, he is that strong. Food for thought again my opinion


2	BENOOT Tiesj	30
3	BOUWMAN Koen	30
4	GESINK Robert	38
5	GLOAG Thomas	22
6	HAGENES Per Strand	20
7	HESSMANN Michel	23
8	JORGENSON Matteo	24
9	KELDERMAN Wilco	33
10	KOOIJ Olav	22
11	KRUIJSWIJK Steven	36
12	KUSS Sepp	29
13	LAPORTE Christophe	31
14	LEMMEN Bart	28
15	STAUNE-MITTET Johannes	22
16	TRATNIK Jan	34
17	TULETT Ben	22
18	UIJTDEBROEKS Cian	21
19	VADER Milan	28
20	VALTER Attila	25
21	VAN AERT Wout	29
22	VAN BAARLE Dylan	32
23	VAN BELLE Loe	22
24	VAN DER SANDE Tosh	33
25	VAN DIJKE Mick	24
26	VAN DIJKE Tim	24
27	VERMOTE Julien	34
28	VINGEGAARD Jonas OUT

Edited June 5 by Sloggy

peepeekaitjie · June 5

30 minutes ago, Sloggy said:

Wout

Not on the team list for the TdF and never was regardless of form. Probably sit this out and focus on his pre-injury goals.

30 minutes ago, Sloggy said:

Adam Yates

Came 3rd in the TdF last year. Last year was his most consistent since leaving Ineos. Hell of a domestique/2nd fiddle to have.

32 minutes ago, Sloggy said:

Sepp Kuss could be the team leader

He was gifted the Vuelta last year. No, arguing he is a great mountain domestique but he will never in our wildest dreams podium the TdF. Ever. He is too inconsistent.

Pog has Ayuso and Almeida both have podiumed GTs before. And way better than Benoot in the mountains.

The only place the team may be a little short is in the rouleurs department. Can't rely on Wellens and Politt alone to control break formation and keep it in check.

And they have Pogacar. He looks to have become a pretty decent cyclist himself.

Bub Marley · June 5

52 minutes ago, Sloggy said:

I do agree with you in part in the current situation ie injuries etc with Wout and Jones and a few others however assuming they are all back to their fighting fit weight in my opinion are a much stronger team.

Adam Yates like his brother just dont seems to deliver the punch on a consistent basis. Mark soler is and the other are great but for me not in the same domestique category Sepp Kuss, Tiej Benoot etc. I actually think that Sepp Kuss could be the team leader if Jonas is out, he is that strong. Food for thought again my opinion

2 BENOOT Tiesj 30

3 BOUWMAN Koen 30

4 GESINK Robert 38

5 GLOAG Thomas 22

6 HAGENES Per Strand 20

7 HESSMANN Michel 23

8 JORGENSON Matteo 24

9 KELDERMAN Wilco 33

10 KOOIJ Olav 22

11 KRUIJSWIJK Steven 36

12 KUSS Sepp 29

13 LAPORTE Christophe 31

14 LEMMEN Bart 28

15 STAUNE-MITTET Johannes 22

16 TRATNIK Jan 34

17 TULETT Ben 22

18 UIJTDEBROEKS Cian 21

19 VADER Milan 28

20 VALTER Attila 25

21 VAN AERT Wout 29

22 VAN BAARLE Dylan 32

23 VAN BELLE Loe 22

24 VAN DER SANDE Tosh 33

25 VAN DIJKE Mick 24

26 VAN DIJKE Tim 24

27 VERMOTE Julien 34

28 VINGEGAARD Jonas OUT

Adam Yates was in supreme form last year. Since his move to UAE, he’s had 1 job and that is to protect Pogi. I don’t think you’d find anyone better than him just based on last years form.

The other two, Ayuso & Almeida are a bit more worrisome. We’ll have to see just how committed they are to work for Pogi as I think both have their own personal ambitions as well.

UAE have so many climbing domestiques, it’s really the flatter part where I feel they might struggle to control a break and are a bit short. But maybe they’re just going with a new tactic this year. Pogi has always been isolated in the mountains with only Yates that stepped up last year. I think he’s hoping with Almeida and Ayuso he’d maybe have more support in the high mountains.

Sloggy · June 5

one thing is for sure that its going to be very interesting to see does Tadej carry the form from Giro into the Toure. if he does not sure how anyone is going to challenge him

I will certainly keep an eye out for adam this year.

What do you think is going to happen in the Criterium ie the likes of Roglic and Co

peepeekaitjie · June 5

26 minutes ago, Sloggy said:

What do you think is going to happen in the Criterium ie the likes of Roglic and Co

I think after today's ITT we will have a better idea of where their form lies

Irvin85 · June 5

2 hours ago, peepeekaitjie said:

He was gifted the Vuelta last year. No, arguing he is a great mountain domestique but he will never in our wildest dreams podium the TdF. Ever. He is too inconsistent.

P

I think you underestimate him completely, He rode all three grand Tours last year, the first two as a domestique and finished 14th at the Giro and 12th at TdF and then went on to Win the Vuelta. Most guys are not up for 2 Grand Tours in a season. Yes Roglic and Jonas could have Won, but the next best rider was over 3 minutes down on him.

If Visma backs him for GC he will be on the podium.

Edited June 5 by Irvin85

peepeekaitjie · June 5

2 minutes ago, Irvin85 said:

If Visma backs him for GC he will be on the podium.

I think you are underestimating how difficult the TdF is to podium let alone win. He can't time trial for sh*t. There is no way in hell he will gain enough time to survive the 59km of TTing in this TdF

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