BuffsVintageBikes Posted February 10 Posted February 10 Not really, Group B had a couple of local Northern burb monsters in it that dropped back to have some fun with their mates. They regularly finish their local training rides on a 40km'h avs speed so this was nothing new to them 😲 You just needed to have the legs to Hak Papi Hak !!! 🤣 CTLonewolf, Kerritz and leon_pro 3
Skubarra Posted February 10 Posted February 10 2 minutes ago, BuffsVintageBikes said: Not really, Group B had a couple of local Northern burb monsters in it that dropped back to have some fun with their mates. They regularly finish their local training rides on a 40km'h avs speed so this was nothing new to them 😲 You just needed to have the legs to Hak Papi Hak !!! 🤣 No I'm referring to the champ in D who did a TT faster than everyone except the elites 🙂 Suspect something went wrong there DieselnDust 1
BuffsVintageBikes Posted February 10 Posted February 10 Ah sorry, probably an ebiker again acting like a hero. W Smith 1
Charles71 Posted February 10 Posted February 10 14 minutes ago, Skubarra said: this looks a little suspicious 🙃 Also noticed this and I believe it was an error.
Skubarra Posted February 10 Posted February 10 16 minutes ago, Skubarra said: this looks a little suspicious 🙃 (Edit to clarify - the guy from D circled in red)
Kom Posted February 10 Posted February 10 21 minutes ago, Skubarra said: this looks a little suspicious 🙃 These graphs dont lie 🤐 --> https://results.finishtime.co.za/results.aspx?CId=35&RId=5600&EId=1&dt=0&PageNo=2
MongooseMan Posted February 10 Posted February 10 37 minutes ago, Kom said: These graphs dont lie 🤐 --> https://results.finishtime.co.za/results.aspx?CId=35&RId=5600&EId=1&dt=0&PageNo=2 A bit of strava stalking tells me the person FinishTime has with a 2h16 time in D has a strava activity for 99er with elapsed time of 4h45 NovakSA, Skubarra and Kom 3
Charles71 Posted February 10 Posted February 10 24 minutes ago, MongooseMan said: A bit of strava stalking tells me the person FinishTime has with a 2h16 time in D has a strava activity for 99er with elapsed time of 4h45 Makes you wonder how finishtime got this wrong or was transponder handed over to a mate in B? CTLonewolf 1
DieselnDust Posted February 10 Posted February 10 1 hour ago, Pure Savage said: I think its more of an issue that there are just less funrides for people to get used to bunch riding and alot of people train solo or small groups. A lot of people that join Tuesday morning rides get a shock as need to pick up on the group riding skills, many really strong on climbs from Zwift etc, but are forever touching brakes etc, but after 5 weeks they are a lot less twitchy. Think going a little deep here, cheating would imply that you have to start in your seeding group, and if you drop back that would be cheating, but thats not the case. If you reseeded once a year, didnt allow people to drop, you would kill road cycling spending cash on events to just ride on the front every week, win your batch, learn no bunch riding skills because you are sitting on the front and not within the bunch. all valid points, clearly a complex problem to solve. Pure Savage 1
Pure Savage Posted February 10 Posted February 10 12 minutes ago, DieselnDust said: all valid points, clearly a complex problem to solve. I have an idea, bring back 12 hours of Killarney, make it a compulsory event to get into top 4 bunches in PPA. Massive groups, 12 hours of learning to bunch ride, ambulances nearby. Lots of birds lots of stones. Waldo would love it. DieselnDust, Skubarra, ChrisF and 1 other 2 2
KingZA Posted February 10 Posted February 10 2 hours ago, Kom said: interesting stats on the times from each wave - Group B in 2nd place according the the median finish time. OMG this is sooo rad!! Please please please can you do it for all the start groups coz I was way down in BB Pure Savage and Kom 2
DieselnDust Posted February 10 Posted February 10 (edited) 5 hours ago, Kom said: interesting stats on the times from each wave - Group B in 2nd place according the the median finish time. I was chatting to one of the driver of a car following the A group and they said that the B group had nearly caught “A” about 5km from the Adderley Road turn. Like they had 20m to close that gap. The “A” group had nearly caught % at this time but we put foot and dropped B like a bad habit or rather they couldn’t hang on any longer as the gradient started to get a bit more severe. We Put 2 min into them by the finish line but they still held about a 1min advantage due to their early efforts. There was definitely higher seeded riders participating in B . Chapeau to them , their luck, they had the engines to pull the group that hard. Edited February 10 by DieselnDust ChrisF 1
DieselnDust Posted February 10 Posted February 10 (edited) 2 hours ago, Pure Savage said: I have an idea, bring back 12 hours of Killarney, make it a compulsory event to get into top 4 bunches in PPA. Massive groups, 12 hours of learning to bunch ride, ambulances nearby. Lots of birds lots of stones. Waldo would love it. Sounds a bit too ….Savage…. maybe a good workable idea is take a riders best three results over a 6month and average them out instead of your best result. That way okes in A dropping back will drop to B , the beneficiaries will rise and everyone meets in B. Maybe the A okes won’t like the loss so much and be more reluctant to drop back to slower groups till they restore their A status. They wouldn’t want to be handed fines at the pre DC dinner 🤣 Edited February 10 by DieselnDust ChrisF and Pure Savage 2
ChrisF Posted February 10 Posted February 10 3 hours ago, MongooseMan said: A bit of strava stalking tells me the person FinishTime has with a 2h16 time in D has a strava activity for 99er with elapsed time of 4h45 Option 1 - "timing error" ... Option 2 - a growth curve to take note off !!! CTCT 2025 in 6:22 Winelandes 2026 - DNS Nothing under Banhoek 4 hours ago, BuffsVintageBikes said: Ah sorry, probably an ebiker again acting like a hero. Two gents on e-bikes at Winelands were doing these times .... the one on a Trek "road bike" with two range extenders pre-wired .... his own words: "I am here to RACE, since we cant race at Argus". This individual seems to have entered a normal bike at three different events .... jip, yea, another topic ..... DieselnDust and Alliesmeister 2
DieselnDust Posted February 10 Posted February 10 6 minutes ago, ChrisF said: Option 1 - "timing error" ... Option 2 - a growth curve to take note off !!! CTCT 2025 in 6:22 Winelandes 2026 - DNS Nothing under Banhoek Two gents on e-bikes at Winelands were doing these times .... the one on a Trek "road bike" with two range extenders pre-wired .... his own words: "I am here to RACE, since we cant race at Argus". This individual seems to have entered a normal bike at three different events .... jip, yea, another topic ..... We had three ebikers in our group last year and they pulled away to win the group ….. ChrisF 1
ChrisF Posted February 10 Posted February 10 3 minutes ago, DieselnDust said: We had three ebikers in our group last year and they pulled away to win the group ….. The modern e-road-bikes are so far removed from the definition of an e-bike, i.e. : - MAX 250 power assist - Power assist limited to 25 or 32km/h I am conflicted on these new era e-race-bikes .... on the one hand I wish I could afford it .... then I remember two very real realities .... the CTCT approach allows FUN RIDERS on ebikes to join an hour after the main groups, they make it clear they dont want e-racers .... then the reality that sooner rather than later photos/videos are going to pop up of e-racers dragging buddies into prize winning positions ..... Going to suck big time when the organisers are forced into a corner because of 1 or 2 e-riders ....
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