Taun Bewsher - Cederberg UltraMtb

[Matchstix]

3 hours ago, ChrisF said:

 

And how does she ignore all the others that has "something personal" against TB?

 

It takes a very special person, and very special in-laws, to ignore 10 years worth of "issues" ....

In agreement.

Some people are blind to the truth.

 

 

[Lynskey]

There is no evidence to show that they are not part of his greater scheme. It is difficult to think that they cannot know what is going on here. His name was up on the fb page for a short spell. Pictures of them all having a jolly time not so long ago. By refunding an individual is that not accepting guilt on behalf of the guilty party? Same as paying a fine is it not?

[Bro Derek]

He is paying Belinda back because she is actively driving the 'new' campaign 

Most others have written it off and moved on and no longer actively pursue the situation.

As soon as Belinda is paid, it is no longer fraud/theft, just a sour business transaction that has since been resolved. 

It is a targeted payment in the hope that she walks away and all the other victims will have no one actually spearheading the whole thing.

The whole thing will lose traction and people will just go back to feeling robbed, wronged and cheated but not doing anything about it because in reality, it is difficult. It is also especially difficult to actually stay motivated when the wheels of justice turn so slowly.

[Lynskey]

1 hour ago, Bro Derek said:

He is paying Belinda back because she is actively driving the 'new' campaign 

Most others have written it off and moved on and no longer actively pursue the situation.

As soon as Belinda is paid, it is no longer fraud/theft, just a sour business transaction that has since been resolved. 

It is a targeted payment in the hope that she walks away and all the other victims will have no one actually spearheading the whole thing.

The whole thing will lose traction and people will just go back to feeling robbed, wronged and cheated but not doing anything about it because in reality, it is difficult. It is also especially difficult to actually stay motivated when the wheels of justice turn so slowly.

If that is the case then he is part and parcel of the scheme? A willing participant? I see he works for a big financial institution. He must surely know the legal system around all this. An enabler and possible author to all the legal letters?

[Matchstix]

1 hour ago, Bro Derek said:

He is paying Belinda back because she is actively driving the 'new' campaign 

Most others have written it off and moved on and no longer actively pursue the situation.

As soon as Belinda is paid, it is no longer fraud/theft, just a sour business transaction that has since been resolved. 

It is a targeted payment in the hope that she walks away and all the other victims will have no one actually spearheading the whole thing.

The whole thing will lose traction and people will just go back to feeling robbed, wronged and cheated but not doing anything about it because in reality, it is difficult. It is also especially difficult to actually stay motivated when the wheels of justice turn so slowly.

Technically the father in law paid Belinda back.

So even though she did recieve money back. .  it was not from him.

 

 

[Bro Derek]

2 hours ago, Matchstix said:

Technically the father in law paid Belinda back.

So even though she did recieve money back. .  it was not from him.

 

 

Paid back on behalf of equates to the same thing. She will have been paid back by someone in relation to the specific transaction.

Not getting too caught up in the whole who is complicit in what re parents etc funding this guy, but as it stands Belinda is the only one being offered money because she is pushing this.

Once she is settled it becomes a personal vendetta and no longer fraud/theft.

I won't speculate on the reason WHY anyone would be covering for him as none of us know so it boils down purely to that, speculation, which we should be avoiding.

IMHO all the parties who have been wronged and written it off ie have been prepared to let it slide but want to see the wheels of justice turn, should pool some cash, pay Belinda the 8k and then let her tell the in laws to go west and continue leading the fight

It eradicates any sort of 'she was paid back so this is personal/harassment' comeback  

[Prince Albert Cycles]

2 hours ago, Matchstix said:

Technically the father in law paid Belinda back.

So even though she did recieve money back. .  it was not from him.

 

 

I tend to agree with this view .  He did not pay it back and even if he paid it back , which he did nor , his conduct in taking money for an event which was never going to take place is fraudulent. His intention was to take money and offer nothing in return . Her being compensated does not obliterate his fraudulent intention and conduct.

[Mike Dewing]

47 minutes ago, Bro Derek said:

Paid back on behalf of equates to the same thing. She will have been paid back by someone in relation to the specific transaction.

Not getting too caught up in the whole who is complicit in what re parents etc funding this guy, but as it stands Belinda is the only one being offered money because she is pushing this.

Once she is settled it becomes a personal vendetta and no longer fraud/theft.

I won't speculate on the reason WHY anyone would be covering for him as none of us know so it boils down purely to that, speculation, which we should be avoiding.

IMHO all the parties who have been wronged and written it off ie have been prepared to let it slide but want to see the wheels of justice turn, should pool some cash, pay Belinda the 8k and then let her tell the in laws to go west and continue leading the fight

It eradicates any sort of 'she was paid back so this is personal/harassment' comeback  

I would question the paperwork involved. If there’s no paper work to specify what the agreement was made and received under there is no agreement.. problem is if he messaged and said the payment was for etc and you say okay cool thanks.. it’s a contract.. 

[Bro Derek]

3 hours ago, Prince Albert Cycles said:

I tend to agree with this view .  He did not pay it back and even if he paid it back , which he did nor , his conduct in taking money for an event which was never going to take place is fraudulent. His intention was to take money and offer nothing in return . Her being compensated does not obliterate his fraudulent intention and conduct.

While this is true, as you know, it is very difficult to prove 'intent' 

The money is being offered with certain caveats, so there is definitely a worded offer relating the money to the incident. 

As TB likes to hand out lawyer letters when he feels attacked or mentioned in poor light, Belinda would then be hamstrung by the agreement.

It's a very tough one to take as getting paid back is a win for an individual who has been scammed. The wheels of justice turn for those who have not, but it boils down to the entire thing being driven, which most of those who have fallen afoul of TB's nefarious dealings, have failed to do, or have for a time but lost interest/motivation with the sheer scope and length of the process.

It is what he relies on. Momentum losing traction due to the procedural farce 

[eddy]

9 hours ago, Bro Derek said:

As soon as Belinda is paid, it is no longer fraud/theft, just a sour business transaction that has since been resolved. 

 

That is not true, Taun.

It is not necessary for a mark to have suffered damage for the crime of fraud to be established, and repaying the money does wipe the slate clean either.

[117]

1 hour ago, eddy said:

That is not true, Taun.

It is not necessary for a mark to have suffered damage for the crime of fraud to be established, and repaying the money does wipe the slate clean either.

Hang on, are you implying that Bro Derek is Taun?

[Lynskey]

25 minutes ago, 117 said:

Hang on, are you implying that Bro Derek is Taun?

I was also thinking that 😑😂

[Mike Dewing]

1 hour ago, eddy said:

That is not true, Taun.

It is not necessary for a mark to have suffered damage for the crime of fraud to be established, and repaying the money does wipe the slate clean either.

What are you basing this off of.? 
 

recent comments don’t suggest this and his comment history on other threads doesn’t suggest it either.. 

[reteid]

I feel for Belinda and all the others that got scammed. If I were you Belinda I would accept the money without prejudice and the payment to be made unconditionally and irrevocably. You will then have your money with the option to still pursue whatever avenue you choose. If they are not prepared to make payment on those terms they are not coming to the party with clean hands. Just my 2 cents worth. I wish you wisdom and kindness in making YOUR decision.

 

As my principal used to say: a good settlement is where neither of the parties are happy.

[Bro Derek]

hahahaha I'm not Taun

(That's something Taun would say)

Nothing I have said would imply I am. If anything it is the opposite

(ALSO something Taun would say!)

Our only resemblance would be the few ginger pubes and facial hairs that pop out occasionally

But, each to their own. I'll leave it with the lawyers and Belinda

 

[Mike Dewing]

2 minutes ago, reteid said:

I feel for Belinda and all the others that got scammed. If I were you Belinda I would accept the money without prejudice and the payment to be made unconditionally and irrevocably. You will then have your money with the option to still pursue whatever avenue you choose. If they are not prepared to make payment on those terms they are not coming to the party with clean hands. Just my 2 cents worth. I wish you wisdom and kindness in making YOUR decision.

 

As my principal used to say: a good settlement is where neither of the parties are happy.

I’m of the impression an offer was made and accepted, payment was made and received.. it has since been promised to a good cause..