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Riding on the wrong side of the road - very illegal, because very dangerous. Also not in keeping with anyone with the label "Elite". Suggest those doing it take up train-surfing where they are less bother to others except the guy with the body bags.

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Optimistic! In both horse and motor racing there are consequences to dangerous riding/driing - is there some official consequence for a cyclist causing a crash or is that just in the pro-circles? Otherwise does it come down to Bedfordview Oupa justice in the lower groups? (Now don't start that again).

This is kinda related & I'm asking for opinions so that should save me.... Down in the nether regions of groups E-Z where me and my kind find ourselves there is fierce, if not pointless, rivalry. I'm on a mission to get to the top of this primeval sludge in time for Hyper-Hyper on 28th Jan but will be away 26th Dec to 12th Jan and no chance of training in that time. Will natural talent and/or training beforehand see me through or should I target a later race for making the big splash?

Sigourney Weaver worked with invasive aliens, that'd be worth researching. Also, come to think of it I havent heard anymore on the guy with the inner tube research that was much heralded on the hub a couple of months back. So, loads of gaps in the market, then.

Cool post Gummy Psychotic and paranoid .... but cool.

Hi Scotty - yup that's what he said

English and 2yrs of German is about it for me - and I can find my way round a menu in portuguese - so I'd struggle most places. Of course British people speak foreign by using our own language slower and louder with arm movements and by adding "o" to the ends of words when in Europe and "e" when in Africa. Seems to work.

[quote= Valid question on the hub is surely if Marissa travels Europe ... she aint talking Afrikaans to people in Europe? It was fine what she did on Weds. night - she looked great and excited and everyone laughed in a good way, inc. Phil and Paul. In Belgium she'll be well understood - I've seen a Walloon and a Afrokaaner meet for the 1st time and find they're speaking the same language. Holland should be fine too - they cycle in Holland don't they? Otherwise, no, you can't easily be international with a minority language.

Hold your line.................. (snore)

Come on guys - you've spent nearly 4 hours shamelessly trying to get a rise out of Grappie and co. on an unrelated thread; and didn't we all go 15 rounds on this earlier in the week? Let's find a new game to play.

Save money on hot water by half-filling your bath with coal. The water it displaces will make your bath seem full but at half the cost!

Thanks you 2 - made me laugh out loud and attract strange looks

And your point is ??? That's his tip - thanks, I get it now, oh and his point - very good (sort of)

I heard Oupa was really a 3 - headed alien that eats cyclists, especially the under-12s and that he has REALLY bad body odour and that the Intergalactic Council has a reward out on any cyclists brave enough to confront him with the only substance (other than kryptonite) to which he is vulnerable - pepperspray. Oh and Concorde Road is single lane except for a rough 30mtr stretch that opens on the left and that cyclists do well not to move over into.

Oomie was from Boksburg, attacked in Bedfordview where the larnies ride. I'm from B'view and expect to be attacked in Boksburg where the peasants live.

This incident makes me feel less safe cycling in B'view, which is a pain as I live there. Pantani was right (strangely enough) a few pages back. You do something and there are consequences, it doesn't end with the guy getting knocked around. Violence turns the heat up in the relationship between cyclists and cars - this is a bad thing.

Bedfordview is a pain as it's full of A-type personalites whether on bikes in cars or on foot. Yesterday saw a guy running on centre line of Van Buuren in traffic for a K or so at 7:30 in the morning - that's got a low life expectancy. Sat. morning 8:00 it's joggers 4 a breast wheezing there way back to Virgin Active. Jees some people, if only everyone was right, like me.

Just got an invite to this for tomorrow night - so you know I wasn't on the original list, and somebody's died or emigrated or something. Any messages you want me to convey to any of the stars of our sport? Anyone else going?

As a relative foreigner, please can someone explain what the references to popcorn are about? I can follow a couple of words of afrikaans but when Grappie gets going with the symbols, it's more of an impression I get than a translation. I wouldn't want to steal your parking space.

Start and finish at Wesbank Raceway - go in and out of town on N17 - don't need road closure cos there's never anything on it. This keeps the kamikaze downhill past the zoo and if you turn before the N14 it cuts out all the cr@p on the highway and all the grot on the R55. Then it's round my place after for tea and biccies - what a winner.

Hi Shammy It's great you've got someone to do that for you and you can just shrug and say "it makes her happy". But "medal holder" - I'm amazed such a thing exists?

Came home Sunday arms aloft with the 94.7 medal to the derision and guffaws of my 13 yr old son. "Dad, they gave you a medal and you came 3 zillionth - you just get it for turning up." He took me to the bar where his trophies are and pointing said - Look, first, first, best all year, first on his cricket and football stuff. I pointed out that he was the best out of 60 or 70 boys but that I beat tens of thousands of people (got to talk it up a bit). Once he was able to breathe again and the tears had stopped rolling down his face from laughing, he went off to train the 3 yr old in soccer skills in the garden, whilst I chucked the medal and race number behind the bar on top of all the others, accumulated over the last two years. So what do you do with your medals? Have you built a shrine, bought the presentation frame; sharpened them to use as some martial arts throwing weapon; melted them down to make 50c coins?

A lowly 74.5. A friend in ZZ did 84 - human skittles.

Same people in the same conditions, expect....... the same.