My letter to Tyler Hamilton

[Spat]

Hamilton response to the 500 tests not coming up with one positive was that the tests were flawed and in certain instance the results were changed

[javadude]

I just care about the truth coming out. I don't want to be Tyler's, Floyd's or Lance's buddy, so I couldn't care about their current personal circumstances.

 

Lance is like a stuck record about him being tested so much. The only reason he's the "most" tested athlete in the world is because that's what he tells everyone. All professional athletes get tested, all the time. Marion Jones was tested all the time, and she only went down because she eventually confessed. The house of cards is starting to crumble, and all the Lance fanboys are going to have to find themselves a new idol to worship.

[TNT1]

all the Lance fanboys are going to have to find themselves a new idol to worship.

 

You mean they'll stick their heads back in the sand?

[Andyr249]

Its not the same. Doping was (perhaps still is to a lesser extent) part of pro cycling - it was part of the culture and everyone did it.

I'm not saying that what they did was right, certainly not, but the consequences of doping when everyone you are competing with is also doping aren't nearly the same as rape and the loss of a life.

Any way, I don't think Hamilton expects that now that he has confessed it is 'all ok'. He's chosen to fess up and deal with the consequences. That can never be a bad thing.

 

Well it seems like murder and rape are part of SA culture.

Take corruption then. The government plus Metro plus SAPS do it. Would it be "all ok" if some of them came out and said that they were corrupt and they are sorry? Should we all sit them down and give them beers?

Doping is wrong and it doesn't matter how many did or didn't dope. Innocent until proven guilty. Landis and Hamilton doped and were caught. They eventually confessed but that does not make it "all ok". Read some other post. Hamilton then went and doped again after his ban. Look at Ricco. Would you have a beer with him if he also told his whole sob story?

[Myra]

Well it seems like murder and rape are part of SA culture.

Take corruption then. The government plus Metro plus SAPS do it. Would it be "all ok" if some of them came out and said that they were corrupt and they are sorry? Should we all sit them down and give them beers?

Doping is wrong and it doesn't matter how many did or didn't dope. Innocent until proven guilty. Landis and Hamilton doped and were caught. They eventually confessed but that does not make it "all ok". Read some other post. Hamilton then went and doped again after his ban. Look at Ricco. Would you have a beer with him if he also told his whole sob story?

 

Which other post?

[Shebeen]

Hamilton was pretty close to the texan, wasn't he? Who's the fall guy for armstrong to eventually come clean? hincapie, bruyneel, his first wife?

[Prince]

Cyclingnews contacted Lance Armstrong's attorney who released this statement.

 

"Tyler Hamilton just duped the CBS Evening News, 60 Minutes and Scott Pelley all in one fell swoop. Hamilton is actively seeking to make money by writing a book, and now he has completely changed the story he has always told before so that he could get himself on 60 Minutes and increase his chances with publishers. But greed and a hunger for publicity cannot change the facts: Lance Armstrong is the most tested athlete in the history of sports: He has passed nearly 500 tests over twenty years of competition."

 

Standard approach form LA's lawyers. Attack the person side step the accusations.

[NotSoBigBen]

I actually don't give a rats ring

[Bianchisti]

if these guys say they doped because everyone else was doing it, how can one guy (who doesnt dope), be better then all the dopers

[TNT1]

if these guys say they doped because everyone else was doing it, how can one guy (who doesnt dope), be better then all the dopers

 

cause he has super one nut power!

[NotSoBigBen]

cause he has super one nut power!

 

Oi Bob, now you playing with fire dude - starting with the one nutters

[Just Keep Pedaling]

Road cycling as a competitive sport makes no sense to me. Either you are doping or you are born with genetically higher levels of V02 or whatever it is that makes you faster.

 

Having a hero in a sport like this is just plain foolish.

[AndreZA]

Oi Bob, now you playing with fire dude - starting with the one nutters

 

Is http://www.seeklogo.com/images/U/Uni-Ball-logo-65827A4BFA-seeklogo.com.gif better?

[NotSoBigBen]

Is http://www.seeklogo.com/images/U/Uni-Ball-logo-65827A4BFA-seeklogo.com.gif better?

 

Finally some respect fanks manfrog

[TNT1]

Oi Bob, now you playing with fire dude - starting with the one nutters

 

Sorry ben. Just for the poll you started:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v445/Beerdog1980/Board%20Pics/awesome.jpg

[Andyr249]

Seven-time Tour de France champion Lance Armstrong has denied claims by former team-mate Tyler Hamilton that they took performance-enhancing drugs together.

 

Hamilton has accused seven-time Tour de France winner Armstrong of doping while insisting the majority of his fellow riders did likewise.

 

His accusations, aired on CBS programme '60 Minutes', come a year after Floyd Landis, another former Armstrong team-mate, made similar allegations of drug use by Armstrong and the team.

 

In response, Armstrong tweeted: '20+ year career. 500 drug controls worldwide, in and out of competition. Never a failed test. I rest my case.'

 

Hamilton won a gold medal at the 2004 Athens Games but later failed a drug test.

 

However, he was allowed to keep his medal because problems at a laboratory meant his 'B' sample could not be tested.

 

Months later, he was caught blood doping and served a two-year ban which ended in 2007.

 

Hamilton returned to racing and won the 2008 US road championship, but he retired last spring after admitting he took an antidepressant that contained the banned steroid DHEA. He was officially banned from cycling for eight years.

His accusations come after he testified before the Los Angeles grand jury investigating Armstrong.

 

Armstrong's spokesman Mark Fabiani released a statement that read: 'Hamilton is actively seeking to make money by writing a book, and now he has completely changed the story he has always told before so that he could get himself on '60 Minutes' and increase his chances with publishers.

 

'But greed and a hunger for publicity cannot change the facts: Lance Armstrong is the most tested athlete in the history of sports. He has passed nearly 500 tests over 20 years of competition.'

 

 

Which other post?

 

The one by TNT1 I included above. He doped, luckily avoided a ban, doped again, got banned, doped a third time, got banned and then retired because of it. He just kept doing it. No different to Ricco. Cycling does not need people like that in it. If you want to respect and admire a doper/former doper then chose someone like David Millar. If I remember correctly he doped, was caught, said he was sorry, served his 2 year ban and is back riding. I have heard he is quite outspoken now about anti-doping.

 

Some bedtime reading for you: http://www.cyclesportmag.com/features/david-millar-interview/

Edited May 20, 2011 by Andyr249