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The fat burn thing worries me, I have 8% so can still loose a small bit, but what about really lean/skinny guys, it will surely be detremental to them using this ?

 

Rudi-h : Remember that you will have liver glycogen that should give around 2 hours of energy, also I think its more about how much carbs you need per hour than calories burnt, usually a gram of carb per kg bodyweight per hour (very rough estimate)

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Hi,

As an engineer, I did the same math as you, but that was after having spent 3000KCal in a race, with only 2 bottles of 32GI ( 378kcal), and I finished good and with good levels of energy.

so the question is : where the **** did this energy come from?

Answer:

- from the food you had the 2/3 days before the race

- from this pasta evening the evening before the race, which is so important

- from the race's morning breakfast

- from the fat your burn during the race and that is promoted by the low gi stuff.

 

after I realised that (just after starting using 32GI), I controlled my diet on a regular basis and particularly the 2/3 days before a race. I've never had any energy problem since (made about 5 hard races), and it had happened on a regular basis before.

Hope it helps.

 

Thanks, but the explanation brings two more questions:

 

1) If 86% of the energy comes from the 3 days before, and you only replace 14% (2 servings) of the energy that you burn with the 32 GI, then theoretically I should be able to finish at least 86% of the 94.7 on water only...? I find it hard to believe that the mere presence of 32GI in my body gives me the ability to break down fat so much faster and more efficiently.

 

2) If I continually only replace 7% - 14% of the energy that I burn during training / racing, how sustainable is this from a weight point of view? That means that after the 94.7 I have to eat a king steer burger, large chips and a 1 litre coke just to keep my weight? If I have to do this after every event, I'm gonna start buying famous brands shares.

 

Anyway, not trying to be difficult, just still looking for a sound explanation...

Posted

I burn about 2500cal a race...the body turns fat into energy meaning you burn fat aswell...for me the product works, maybe cause I am a bit heavier than you guys....and it tastes awesome!

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1) If 86% of the energy comes from the 3 days before, and you only replace 14% (2 servings) of the energy that you burn with the 32 GI, then theoretically I should be able to finish at least 86% of the 94.7 on water only...? I find it hard to believe that the mere presence of 32GI in my body gives me the ability to break down fat so much faster and more efficiently.

 

 

That is exactly the point, you don't need anything in races under 3 hours IMHO.

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I tried 32 gi at Eselfontein. It was a 70km ride that took me 4 45 to complete. I never ate a thing for 3 hrs and felt great. After 3 hours i ate 1 slice of low gi bread and peanut butter. I finished the ride feeling strong. Drank 2 bottles of 32gi and water and that slice that was it, It worked brilliant for me.

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Agree with Brighter Lites. I used it at the Cebe 12hr and did not go over my HR limits as I was using it as a base ride It worked well on that ride, also just ate bananas and Seed Loaf with organic Peanut Butter. Later stopped eating as I did not feel the need to finished tired but not shattered.

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i do not know the answer but it works for me.another plus for the product is that the lady who works at kotov's corner where i buy mine is very good looking.she is probably vladmir's wife but still a goodlooking woman and friendly as well.

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Thanks, but the explanation brings two more questions:

 

1) If 86% of the energy comes from the 3 days before, and you only replace 14% (2 servings) of the energy that you burn with the 32 GI, then theoretically I should be able to finish at least 86% of the 94.7 on water only...? I find it hard to believe that the mere presence of 32GI in my body gives me the ability to break down fat so much faster and more efficiently.

 

2) If I continually only replace 7% - 14% of the energy that I burn during training / racing, how sustainable is this from a weight point of view? That means that after the 94.7 I have to eat a king steer burger, large chips and a 1 litre coke just to keep my weight? If I have to do this after every event, I'm gonna start buying famous brands shares.

 

Anyway, not trying to be difficult, just still looking for a sound explanation...

 

answers:

1) And so what is the problem? Do the test: have a balanced diet for 2/3 days, a big pasta meal the evening, and a decent low gi breakfast in the morning. Then just pack your camelback with only water and go for a long hard ride...I think you would be surprised to notice how long you will last and it would prove you that your body contains a lot of energy.

 

2) I can tell you I do not loose weight doing that. during a race, I just use the energy I have accumulated the day (days) before. Then after the race I have a normal meal or sometimes a recovery drink if the meal does not come right after. Try to get your calories from a decent diet as well and stop eating crap like coke, chips and burgers, you'll feel the difference on your bike for sure.

 

I think 32Gi does not provide you the energy you need for the race, it's just a small complement of energy+hydration. The main advantage is that it does not spike (and drop) your blood sugar so you will have the feeling of sustained energy levels. As there is no spike in your blood sugar, your body burns more fat (as opposed to using your blood sugar only if you spike it with high GI product).

 

I hope it makes sense, but sorry i'm not dietician or a sport scientist so take it for what it's worth...

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I have to agree with what Brighter Lights said eirlier. This product may be good for long endurance events where you ride at lower intensities - and can utilize fat. As soon as you go to Zone 4,5 you cannot rely on energy from metabolising fat. You go into your glycogen stores and whatever carbs (medium to high GI) your body can take up during the ride/race. When those stores are depleted, your intensity WILL come down, you will go slower, you could start burning fat, and you will feel like crap!!

 

I use 32GI on longer training rides. And I still pack my samies or bananas etc for rides longer than 2hrs.

Posted

It's prefect as a pre-race drink or anyone looking for a constant source of (sustained) energy.

 

If you are a racing snake you could indeed battle to get "spiked" - I encountered that problem during Joberg2C with low GI energy bars.

 

It's ideal for endurance sports though...

Posted

....and it tastes awesome!

 

No it doesnt ... it taste horrible! That has got to be one of the sweetest tasting drinks ever, which I cant clearly understand because it is supposed to be this low sugar low GI story.

 

I have tried all the flavors and if you are used to having 6 spoons of sugar with your coffee, yea then you might like it but I dont drink sugar!

 

Cytomax - Fresh Apple - Best tasting ever!

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@weight-weenie. 8% body fat, wow, where do you want to lose more?

 

Liver and muscle glycogen stores will provide energy however depending on the intensity of the rides it may be shorter or longer than 2 hours worth of fuel. If the ride is low intensity then fat will be used as a fuel, whereas higher intensity activity will utilise carbohydrates, lactic acid and your very high intensities will use the phosphagen system (ATP-PC) but that will only be for a matter of seconds.

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