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:lol: - I have to chuckle, just because there's no branding or as Andre says "branding we know" everyone jumps on the "its rubbish" bandwagon.

 

I wonder on what testing you base this assumption.?

 

A photo means little if anything, I have seen pics of well known brands looking as bad or worse, what can I deduce from that? Nothing.!

 

Unless you have taken the frame to a laboratory and had the tensile strength of the material tested and verified, and then compared it to a variety of tabulated strengths of "brands" your "deduction the material lacks a serious element of strength" is simply your opinion, it has no basis in fact.

:lol: - I have to chuckle, just because there's no branding or as Andre says "branding we know" everyone jumps on the "its rubbish" bandwagon.

 

I wonder on what testing you base this assumption.?

 

A photo means little if anything, I have seen pics of well known brands looking as bad or worse, what can I deduce from that? Nothing.!

 

Unless you have taken the frame to a laboratory and had the tensile strength of the material tested and verified, and then compared it to a variety of tabulated strengths of "brands" your "deduction the material lacks a serious element of strength" is simply your opinion, it has no basis in fact.

 

Well said!

er..made in China doesnt necessarily mean bad quality. Some of the factories in China have really stringint quality control.

 

Of course the problem comes in when you have to choose between the good manufacturers and the bad. Like buying food. Organic stuff in SA deosnt mean it's really organic. It just means it conforms to some of the standards to be able to label it organic.

 

just my 2c.

Absolutely, what's more is that all the Chinese plants work to ISO and Euro standards these days where the must have the proper testing done. If they don't, they close.

People stop being so naive. I'm really sorry that some people have paid R14 000 extra on a carbon frame for a name.

 

So you have one then ;)

I have never heard of any Chinese plant working to any standard. :D If they did all of them would close.

 

"Made in China" ie: "Buy at own Risk"

 

Not true , I’m in a company that does large format pumps ( I can move all the water out of a Olympic pool in a few secs ) and one of the best products we have is out of china, they have one the best factory/production facilities I have ever been into make the porsche factory look backwards, as well as providing the best backup ever . so not all companies there are " at own risk "

:lol: - I have to chuckle, just because there's no branding or as Andre says "branding we know" everyone jumps on the "its rubbish" bandwagon.

 

I wonder on what testing you base this assumption.?

 

A photo means little if anything, I have seen pics of well known brands looking as bad or worse, what can I deduce from that? Nothing.!

 

Unless you have taken the frame to a laboratory and had the tensile strength of the material tested and verified, and then compared it to a variety of tabulated strengths of "brands" your "deduction the material lacks a serious element of strength" is simply your opinion, it has no basis in fact.

 

I concur, having seen several Specialized Carbon frames in pieces at Sani2C, big money doesnt always buy you lasting quality, especially in mountain biking.

Absolutely, what's more is that all the Chinese plants work to ISO and Euro standards these days where the must have the proper testing done. If they don't, they close.

People stop being so naive. I'm really sorry that some people have paid R14 000 extra on a carbon frame for a name.

 

No that is not true.Not all goods,frames,equipment complies with CE or DIN/ISO standards.

 

You get that which does and that which does not.There will def be those cheaper that dont comply with norms and standards comparable to say Giant,Spaz,Niner etc

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